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From: "Bill or Elayne" <>
Subject: Re: Clausman,Hoppe, Fick
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:32:12 -0500


I'll have to add my 6 cents to this discussion. I work in a residential
program for people with chronic mental illness. Things really haven't
changed all that much. Many of these people are still thrown away by their
families and it is really sad because there isn't one of them that isn't
worth knowing. What amazes me is how they don't give up. They still keep
hoping to find a job, have a family, be wanted by their own family.
Sometimes I think of some of our residents who haven't heard from their
family in many years and wonder if there is someone out there who still
wonders what became of "Uncle Joe" and would like to know where he is and
that he is okay.

>From my experience, the mentally ill are still viewed as "psycho" types, not
potential "Van Gogh"'s. by the majority of society.

Just my opinion based on my experiences.......

Elayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy Handley <>
To: <>
Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: Clausman,Hoppe, Fick

>-----Original Message-----
>From: <>
>To: <>
>Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 1:09 PM
>Subject: Clausman,Hoppe, Fick
>
>
>>I subscribed to this list last month and did not know what it would
>>bring! I'd like to add my 4 cents (inflation, you know).
>>Two thoughts- first of all, there were many inter-family marriages not
>>that long ago. My sister has discovered our ancestors in a small town in
>>Ireland in 1800's where it appears as though the families all
>>inter-married. (She has found several references to the slaughter of
>>men, women and children in this town on more than one occasion.) I do
>>believe that all manor of mental and physical maladies could stem from
>>this practice. Second- the reference to folks with mental illness being
>>hidden, and ;therefore being the cause of our "brick walls" is definite.
>
>
>Absolutely.
>
>It's pretty bizarre to think you could stumble onto some of your brick
>walls' families and never even know it ... because your person had been
>committed to an institution, or just a "black sheep" that no one spoke of.
>
>Other messages to the list have commented on how people who are "different"
>today are generally regarded as not necessarily shameful but creative,
>artistic -- the kind of people who *do* things and who change things.
>
>It's interesting to think about how it is that this change of mindset came
>about.
>
>There's a wonderful line in the movie "Basquiat" : "No one wants to be part
>of the generation that ignores another Van Gogh."
>
>-Kathy.
>
>

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