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From: "Tony Johnson" <>
Subject: FW: Re: The problem with goose creek
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 05:55:52 +0000


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>From: "Tony Johnson" <>
>To: "Ed Marsh" <>,"TonyempireOre"
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>Subject: Re: The problem with goose creek
>Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:21:42 -0800
>
>Sir thank You for this WONDERFUL INFORMATION : YOU have just connected some
>dots for a few of us; I Will send you a copy of the e-mail I just sent out
>to another researcher::: BUFFALO CREEK: GREAT:: AND the Randolph SURNAME::
>Wow Randolph's are on Tuckahoe Creek in 1690 Va:::: James Randolph
>Robertson is a cousin Line off our groups Hatcher Lines.
>
>Thank You Tony L. Johnson
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ed Marsh<mailto:>
> To: Tony Johnson<mailto:>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 10:22 AM
> Subject: The problem with goose creek
>
>
> I've done a good bit of research on the early settlers of South River
> Settlement (present Lynchburg, VA). The name South River refers to the
> area just south of the James River (Fluvanna). I have ancestors who
> received original grants on Fishing Creek which lies at the foot of
> Candler's mountain.
>
> This excerpt (below) from one of my essays on the subject of early
> settlement might be interesting. I have several maps and books, and
> would be willing to discuss the subject.
>
> ------------
> Richard Randolph of Henrico County received thousands of acres on
> branches of Elk, Buffalo, and Goose Creeks, which drain southward into
> the Otter River. Charles Lynch, Sr. was another resident of the northern
> counties to claim land in this sub-James area. The Otter River also
> drains southward into the Roanoke near present-day Altavista, VA. John
> Candler's father-in-law James Gibson bought land in the early 1750's
> that was part of Richard Randolph's original 1744 grant on Elk Creek.
>
> Somewhat surprisingly, the land immediately south of the James
> (Lynchburg) was not claimed until the very late 1740's and more so in
> the early 1750's. Some branches of Elk and Goose Creeks (mentioned
> above) lie less than a half mile from northward flowing streams of the
> James -- Blackwater Creek for example, which flows through the heart of
> Lynchburg.
>
> By the early 1750's when the fertile land of the Roanoke (10-30 miles
> south of the James) was being sold for the second or third time, the
> Lynches, Anthonys and Candlers were receiving original land grants at
> South River. For a time, the hilly terrain and bluffs along the south
> side of the James at Lynchburg lay ignored. What began the acquisition
> of this land?
>
> By the mid-1750's, the colonial village of Bedford Court House
> (present-day New London) was an important trading center in central
> Virginia. This town was difficult to reach from the north
> (Charlottesville, et al.) due to the necessity of fording the James
> River, which passed twelve miles north of the village. John Lynch, son
> of land-owner Charles Lynch and Quaker Sarah Clark Lynch, decided to
> remedy this problem, and in 1757, established a ferry service on the
> James a few hundred yards upstream from the ford, on property owned by
> his father.
>
> The ferry service remained profitable for many years, and by the end of
> the American Revolution, the village at Lynch's Ferry had itself become
> an important center of trade. Lynch saw the possibilities of
> establishing a town on the hill overlooking the ferry site, and in late
> 1784 petitioned the General Assembly of Virginia for a town charter. In
> October, 1786, the charter was granted, founding the town of Lynchburg.
> [Previous 2 paragraphs paraphrased from Lynchburg On-Line]
>
>
>
> Thus the river crossing (Lynches Ferry) spawned the town. However, the
> Quaker settlement was well underway by the time John Lynch's Ferry was
> founded in 1757. The Candlers, Lynches, Gibsons, Caffreys, and others
> had been in the area for about a decade. In 1757, Robert Pleasants of
> Henrico county visited most South River Quakers on a mission to
> determine their worthiness to have a Monthly Meeting "settled on them."
> His journal lists each household that he visited. This document survives
> and is a who's who of early South River Quaker families.
>
> When Bedford County was divided in 1782, it was along a line that lay
> just west of Lynchburg and AltaVista. Part of Old Blackwater Road (south
> to New London) lay in Campbell County, and the rest (from New London
> west toward Montvale) lay in Bedford County. Almost all of Daniel and
> Hannah Candler's descendants who stayed in the area have lived in
> Campbell County.
>
>
> Tony Johnson wrote:
> >
> > Goose Creek and Goose River is connected to Falling River in Early
>Deeds:: Bill Johnson : His Johnson relatives are in Campbell County THOMAS
>H. JOHNSON 1820 eraNote:: Another Johnson researcher requested info on
>Thomas Johnson of of Fishing Creek Please contact me again as I have mis
>placed your e-mail Thanks Tony L. Johnson descended from Hudson
>Johnston-Johnston with Connectioned to a Benjamin Johnson, James Johnson, &
>William Johnson of Buffalo Creek ( Deeds are in Halifax, Lunenburg, Henry
>County and finally in Campbell County records, after counties finished
>splitting)
> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 10:43 AM
> > Subject: Goose Creek and Goose River is connected to Falling River in
>Early Deeds:: Bill Johnson : His Johnson relatives are in Campbell County
>THOMAS H. JOHNSON 1820 era
> >
> > 1738 Journal of the Council of Virginia in Executive Session :
>Petition for Leave to take up his Majesties Land was read and granted to
>MICHAEL HOLLAND< HENRY CHILES< ALEXANDER TYNSON<, JAMES WALKER and JOSEPH
>JOHNSON 10,000 acres in BRUNSWICK County on the head of falling river (
>Falling River is in present day Campbell County) to begin at the said
>Tynson's Camp in one or more tracts.
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> > 1741 Nov 28 : William Cox : PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY.: 600 acres
>beginning where Col. John Tayloes lin and Capt. SAMUEL JOHNSON's intersect
>extending on the drafts of the N.W.Fork of Goose Creek: Source Northern
>Neck Grants E. 1736- 1742 pg 382, reel 291: Library of Virginia Archives
>Section.
> >
> > May 5 1746 Old Style page 7 Richard Womack is appointed Surveyor of a
>Road to be cleared from the middle fork of Little Roanoake River to Falling
><a href="river%20road" onmouseover="window.status='River Road'; return
>true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">River Road</a>>. And it
>is ordered that all Male Labouring Tithable Persons belonging to Thomas
>Spencer, Joseph Morton, RIchard Womack and RObert Childress assist in
>clearing the same. Charlotte Co.Va : Historical Roads of Virginia
> >
> > 1748 Lunenburg Tithables taken by John Phelps from Mouth of falling
>River upwards, Current Counties in 2000 are BEdford and Western Campbell
> >
> > Timothy Johnson pd by James Johnson also 4 tithes
> > Their neighbors are: Aquilla Gilbert, Walter Mattews, James Renfro,
>Peter and Isaac Vanbeberm James Cole Jr, Robert and Tos. Jones, William
>Rentfro, Daniel Dunnoho, David Griffith, Thomas Turner, John and THomas
>Read, John Graves, Lewis Lefeyl, John Adams in ye forrest.
> >
> > RESEARCH NOTES: John Phelps is Justive of the Peace, Colonel in the
>Colonial Army and died 1772 in Bedford Co.Va. he was born 1683 in Maryland.
>wife is Mary Burgess. ::: Note Renfro is also a Surname of mine and Pegs
>that conects into our Mayo- RIchardson and Hudson Johnson lines.:: Turner
>is a surname connector to Terisha Johnston and numerous families in
>Humphreys Co. Tn. Note Halifax Co. 1753 James Johnson and John Branch sue a
>Stephen Cole
> >
> > RESEARCH NOTE: in 1737 RIchard Randolph was granted three thousand one
>hundred forty eight acres on Falling River:: Amelia COunty History:: See
>above
> >
> > RESEARCH NOTE: July 20th 1736 John Graves 400 acres Goochland Co. Va.
>on both sides of Ballengers Creek of the North SIde of Rivanna Riv. adj.
>William Matlock Cavaliers and Pioneer by Nell Marion Nugent Vol. 4 pg 114
>Patent Bk 15 page 123
> >
> > 1750 List of Lunenburg Tithes From Falling Creek to Goose River Taken
>by John Phelps are Wm. Boyd, Jno Echoles, Jason Meadows, Lewis Meadows,
>Jason Meadows Jr., Jno Ward, Thomas Donnahoe, Andrew Jones pd by Harnd
>Gooche, Thos, Mosley Quarters pd by Sherd. Goddley, Richd Callaway, Alex
>Parish, ::::Timothy Johnson Jas. Johnson pd by Jos. Rust 4 tithes. Research
>Note John Phelps connects this to James Johnson deed of July 27 1744
>Brunswick Co. Va. Research Note: Wards are a surname Connector to WIlliam
>Hatcher the Immigrnat and his Allied families of Burton, ELam, Farmer,
>Osborne, Trent etc. Note:The names Wheeler, Meadows, Johnson and Colemans
>were connected from Cumberland to Prince Edward Co. Va:::Elias Coleman
>mother was a Francis Wheleer and her greatgrandson was married to a Meadows
>female. and this ? Meadows mother was a Johnson married to ? Meadows. This
>was waround 1745 to 1876.::James Meadows and Martha Johnson lived in Prince
>Edward Co. The Wheelers were from Buckin
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> > ham Co.:::Posted on Rootsweb.com message board for Prince Edward
>Co.Va. Research Note:: 1751 April 3 O.S. page 395:: Lunenburg Co.
>Historical Virginia Roads::: Ordered that a road be laid open and cleared
>the best and most convenient way from the foot of Johnsons Mountian (
>laying on the South side of Otter river) in Callaways road and RIchard
>Callaway is appointed surveyor thereof.
> >
> > 1768 July 20 (Bedford Co.) Philip Johnson and James Blair 434 acres on
>borh sides of the North Fork of Falling RIver adj. Wheller::CPv7::early
>Johnson Time Lines:::
> >
> > 1768 July 20 :Bedford Co.: Philip Johnson and James Blair : 434 Acres
>on both sides of the NOrth Fork of Falling River: Source Land Office
>Patents # 37: 1767-1768 pg 246 reel 37: Library of Virginia Archives
>Section.
> >
> > Research Note::Falling River?? what County and Philp Johnson?? then is
>this a WHEELER surname also see 1757 birth of John Wheeler in Prince Edward
>Co.Va:: 1750 Lunenburg Co. Tithes:: 1742 June 18 Deed Amelia Co.Va and 1748
>Lunenburg Tithes of John Phelps on Wheeler surname: (Fallling River is in
>present day CAMPBELL COUNTY)
> >
> > RESEARCH NOTE: in 1737 Richard RAndolph is granted three thousand one
>hundred forty eight acres on Falling Creek: Per History of AMelia Co. see
>above.
> >
> > RESEARCH NOTE Falling RIver is in 2004 CAMPBELL COUNTY
> > 1774 July:(BEDFORD):William Glass on the head branches of the South
>Fork of Falling River adj. Franklin, Gill Dixon, Cundiff and
>JOHNSON::CPv7;::Early Johnson time lines.
> >
> > NOTE IN 2004 FALLING RIVER IS IN CAMPBELL COUNTY as IS GOOSE CREEK
> >
> >
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