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From: "gdy2shosflthybst" <>
Subject: Re: [SUVCW] Not standing for pledge of allegience on Denny Radio
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 22:14:50 -0400
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As long as they are a citizen then we have to guarantee the same civil
liberties. However, it should be admissable evidence if they are ever tried
for treason! Ha!

Failing to pledge allegiance really is the same as saying that you are not a
loyal citizen.

Eric
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug McMillin" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [SUVCW] Not standing for pledge of allegience on Denny Radio


OK, brothers, just for fun, how about this thought I had reading this last
night. And I only place this out as a philosophical question not as an
opinion. If a person refuses to pledge allegiance to the standard that
represents the nation....should they be guaranteed the same national civil
liberties as a person who does pledge allegiance? The internal debate I
have had with this one is just marvelous...just thought I'd share. lol

Doug McMillin JVC
Gettysburg Camp 112


On 5/13/08, gdy2shosflthybst <> wrote:
>
> It probably says should to allow for those who cannot physically stand.
>
> Eric
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [SUVCW] Not standing for pledge of allegience on Denny Radio
>
>
> > More on the story at http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354864,00.html
> >
> > Everything not tested could be considered possibly unconstitutional, the
> > reason stated for letting the students back in, but that is a pretty
> poor
> > excuse. It appears the law is clear.
> >
> > US Code Title 4, Chapter 1 (from
> > http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/4/usc_sec_04_00000004----000-.html)
> > "ยง 4. Pledge of allegiance to the flag; manner of delivery
> >
> > The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag: "I pledge allegiance to the Flag
> of
> > the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands,
> one
> > Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.",
> should
> > be rendered by standing at attention facing the flag with the right hand
> > over the heart. When not in uniform men should remove any non-religious
> > headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the
> hand
> > being over the heart. Persons in uniform should remain silent, face the
> > flag, and render the military salute."
> >
> > But, maybe the code should have been written with "must" instead of
> > "should", example " ... must be rendered by standing at attention ...".
> >
> > FCL,
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: "Ernest Everett Blevins" <>
> >> I don't know the story on this yet, but this is in my e-news for a
> >> internet/radio show I listen to on DennyRadio.com. Apparently three
> >> students were suspended for not standing during the pledge of
> allegience.
> >> Being a patriotic issue I'l toss it out there. I'll listen since I'm
> >> working
> >> at home and chime in if appropriate. There is registration for
> listening
> >> to
> >> the show but its only an email/pw thing and does not cost anything (I
> >> think
> >> just to keep track of numbers of on line listeners).
> >>
> >> I do not know the political views of everyone on the list, but Denny is
> >> conservative, this advert for the program is aimed for this feature
> today
> >> is
> >> not to be taking a political postion on this list as I'm sure we have
> >> libreals and consevatives on the list.
> >>
> >> Denny has invited me to be on a show near Memorial to talk about
> Memorial
> >> Day. Him being from Michigan and previously aired in Ohio I'm working
> on
> >> him as a member as well.
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