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From: "Jerry W. Murphy" <>
Subject: Re: Royal Stewart and Fleming line?
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 20:08:54 -0600


This should help you a "little" in your research. ;-)

Jerry W. Murphy


From the book, "The Royal Descents of 500 Immigrants to the American
Colonies or the United States", by Gary Boyd Roberts (1993): page 111:

1. Edward III, King of England, d. 1377 = Philippa of Hainault
2. John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster = Catherine Roet
3. John Beaufort, Marquess of Somerset and Dorset = Margaret Holand
4. Joan Beaufort, Dowager Queen of Scotland = Sir James Stewart, the "Black
Knight of Lorne"
5. James Stewart, 1st Earl of Buchan = Margaret Qgilvy
6. (illegitimate by Margaret Murray) James Stewart of Traquair = Catherine
Rutherford
7. William Stewart of Traquair = Christain Hay
8. James Stewart of Traquair = Katherine Kerr
9. Sir Robert Stewart of Schillinglaw = Alice Cockburn
10. Christain Stewart = John Cranston of Bold
11. James Cranston, a chaplain to King Charles I = _______
12. John Cranston (c1626-1680), physician, colonial governor of Rhode Island
= Mary Clarke, daughter of Jeremiah Clarke, acting governor of R.I., ARD,
SETH, and Mrs. Frances Latham Dungan.

9. Janet Stewart (sister of Sir Robert of Schillinglaw) = John Veatch of
Peebles
10. Malcolm Veatch of Muirdeen = ________
11. James Veatch of Maryland = Mary Gakerlin.

Sources:
"The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215", 4th ed. (1991); by F.L. Weis, W.L.
Sheppard, Jr., and David Faris. - lines 41 & 91.
"Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before
1700", 7th ed. (1992); by F.L. Weis, W.L. Sheppard, Jr., and David Faris. -
line 1 (Cranston).
"The American Genealogist", No. 53 (1977); pages 152-53.
"In Search of Yesterday (Veatch/Veitch family)", c. 1969; William Robert
Veitch.

This line goes back to Charlemagne, Wm. the Conqueror, Hugh Capet, Alfred
the Great, Robert the Bruce, Eleanor of Aquitaine, and Lady Godiva among
others.

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Below is the ancestral line of James STEWART, the Black Knight of Lorne,
from my notes:

1. Flaald, obtained from Wm. the Conqueror the Castle of Oswaldster
(Oswestry).
2. Alan FitzFlaald of Oswestry = daughter of Warine, Sheriff of Shropshire.
3. Walter FitzAlan, 1st High Steward, d. 1177 = Eschina de Lononius.
4. Alan, 2nd High Steward, d. 1204 =________.
5. Walter, 3rd High Steward (c1167-1246) = Beatrix.
6. Alexander, 4th High Steward (1197-1283) = Jean MacRorey.
7. Sir John Stewart of Bonkyl, d. 1298 at Falkirk = Margaret de Bonkyl.
8. Sir James Stewart = ___________.
9. Sir Robert Stewart of Schanbothy, d. c1388 = _________.
10. Sir John Stewart, Lord Innermeath and Lorne, d. 1421 = Isabel de
Ergadia, ggrandaughter of Robert the Bruce (Robert I, King of Scots).
11. Sir James Stewart, Black Knight of Lorne, d. 1445 = Joan Beaufort.

Sources:
"Complete Peerage", Vol. 4: p. 83; by G.E. Cokayne.
"Scot's Peerage", Vol. I: p. 13, Vol. 8: p. 403; by Sir James B. Paul.
"Genealogy of the Stewarts", (1798); by Andrew Stuart.
"Studies in Peerage and Family History", p. 115-146, (1902); by J.H. Round.
"History of Peebleshire", Vol. 2: p. 415, 525-527; Vol. 3: p. 84; by Buchan
& Patron.
"Historical notes on Peebleshire localities", p. 552; by Robert Renwick.

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Date: Sunday, December 14, 1997 5:18 PM
Subject: Royal Stewart and Fleming line?

>My Stewart line:
>1. James STEWART 1534-1607 in Scotland m. Katherine KERR 1538-1606
> 2. Janet STEWART b. 1558 Traquair, Scotland m. Laird John VAICHE/VEITCH
>
>A few years ago I found a book in the library that briefly mentioned my
>Stewart family saying my Janet STEWART VEITCH was descended from European
>royalty. It says, "For although Janet STEWART VEITCH's ancestors connect
her
>to the more recent kings of Scotland and to other interesting
relations...her
>lines are more often than not illegitimate in descent whereas her
mother-in-
>law's (Marion/Mariota/Marriot FLEMING) ancestry is traced as far into
>antiquity but contains fewer instances of illegitimacy."
>
>It says that Janet STEWART VEITCH was the aunt of the first Earl of
Traquair
>and that Marriot FLEMING's ancestors include Wm. the Conqueror, Hugh Capet,
>Alfred the Great, Eleanor of Aquitaine, "The Black Knight" James Stewart,
and
>Lady Godiva.
>
>Marion/Mariota FLEMING b. in Boghall, Scotland m. William VAICHE
>They are the parents of Laird John VAICHE mentioned above.
>
>Any help connecting Janet Stewart and Mariota Fleming with their royal
lines
>would be greatly appreciated.
>
>and...Who was the 1st Earl of Traquair?
>
>We have been searching this for five years, thanks in advance for any
>assistance.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Marie
>

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