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From: "Mark Fletcher" <>
Subject: RE: [ZA] RALPH;GRUNOW;PATTINSON;GIRLING;FLETCHER;TURNER,+ DURANT
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 14:27:15 +1000


Dear Pat,

Thank for very much for Katrina, I hadn't begin to consider the Eastern
Cape but I will all comers at the moment!

Still have not been able to place The Major TC & Isabella in Durbin yet.
All I have is an oral history story that on arrival in SA in the late
1800s, he proceeded to blow the family fortune on "Polo Ponies & Brandy"
and lived near the race course in Grayville. Thought I may have a chance
with some of the old memebers lists of the local clubs of the time?

Mark.

-----Original Message-----
From: Patricia Frykberg [mailto:]
Sent: Friday, 2 July 2004 2:15 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [ZA] RALPH;GRUNOW;PATTINSON;GIRLING;FLETCHER;TURNER,+
DURANT

Hi Mark
I have a DN for Susana Katrina FLETCHER formerly WESTON nee NEPGEN 22
October 1884 Barkley East.
Any use? There is also a recent death mentioned in Rita's transcriptions
from Natal papers. I will forward to you again. It bounced yesterday.
Pat
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Fletcher" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, 30 June 2004 02:04 PM
Subject: RE: [ZA] RALPH;GRUNOW;PATTINSON;GIRLING;FLETCHER;TURNER,+
DURANT


> Dear Ellen,
>
> Thank you for the Durant marriages, first confirmation we have had of
> Henry & (Son?). Looks to be both the stepson and the step gson of our

> Thomas Carr Fletcher Born Bycoola India 1839.
>
> I have no idea what everybody is looking for? So I thought I would
> briefly! throw in some South African Fletchers/Durant's and Turners
> that I know.
>
> Major Thomas Carr Fletcher (Durbin 1800's) Son of the Rev William Kew
> Fletcher & Elizabeth Katherine Carr, Daughter of the
> Bishop(Bombay)Thomas Carr,Born 1788 Gumasill, Yorkshire England.
>
> The Magor T.C. came to Durbin with one Mary Isabella Durant.
>
> Born 1843 India, Daughter of a Captain Woolley of the Bombay Native
> Infantry, 14 Regiment, died Madras 1885 and ex wife of Charles Albert
> Durant Born, Poona India.
> With 2 boys, Thomas Charles Shinkwin Fletcher and Henry Charles George

> Durant. Two or more children were born after, a James Fletcher and a
> Fredrick and Nelly? Durant.
>
> Mary J Turner and Daughter, Jennie Maria Turner both Born
> (Vancouver/Oregon?)Came to Durbin 1890/1900 with a Thomas Beverly
> Spring, Born Ohio 1844 & his two children. Thomas Beverly Jnr and
> Henrietta Agnes, who went on to marry Thomas Charles Shinkwin
> Fletcher.Jennie Maria Turner married a Adolph Martin Nipper who died
> in
> 1927 and she died in Durbin? in 1967. Mary J Turner had a further two
> children with T B Spring, Ivis (boy) and Oreeda (Girl), outcome
unknown?
>
> Hope this helps some one along the way, happy to supply details.
>
> Regards
> Mark
> Sydney Australia
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ellen Stanton [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, 30 June 2004 2:44 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [ZA] RALPH;GRUNOW;PATTINSON;GIRLING;FLETCHER;TURNER
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Did I send you these?
>
> LDS Microfilm #1259227
> Natal Marriages
> Item 2
>
> Entry #10006
> Husband: Henry Charles George DURANT
> Wife: Margaret Jane HORSLEY
> Date: 3/2/1897
>
> LDS Microfilm #1795572
> Natal Marriages
> Item 4
>
> Entry #1098
> Husband: Harold Durant ARCHIBALD
> Wife: Maria Gladys BREMNER
> Date: 10/12/1910
>
> Regards,
> Ellen Stanton
> Email:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Fletcher" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 9:37 PM
> Subject: RE: [ZA] RALPH;GRUNOW;PATTINSON;GIRLING;FLETCHER;TURNER
>
>
> >
> > We have been at it on and off for 30 years with a little bit of
> success,
> > will help if I can. Researching: Spring/Fletcher and Durant. Durbin
> From
> > 1850 on.
> >
> > Regards
> > Mark
> > Sydney
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patricia Frykberg [mailto:]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2004 10:39 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: [ZA] RALPH;GRUNOW;PATTINSON;GIRLING;FLETCHER;TURNER
> >
> > Hi everyone, I have seen these names on our messages I am sure.
> > Would those of you with interest contact Jan directly?
> > I have told her about the problems getting birth and death certs (NZ

> > ones are pretty easy to get and full of info) and I have referred
> > her to NAAIRS, and Conrod and Heather and e-family. Jan is one of
> > our most experienced genealogists and generous in her help to us all

> > and organises trips to Salt Lake city, but SA is a new field for
her.
> > thanks
> > Pat
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jan Gow
> > To: Patricia Frykberg
> > Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2004 08:26 AM
> > Subject: Questions
> >
> >
> > Just thought I would let you know where my South African research
is!!
> > Just in case you can make some suggestions. I sent this to someone
> > who was going there just in case she could look at some
registrations.
> >
> > Malcolm Raymond RALPH born c 1925 (B/C would be great) and died c
> > 1988 (D/C would be great - just want to find out mother's maiden
> > name and any info about the parents). His wife is Thora May GRUNOW
> > bc1929 in SA and died c 1999 - her parents are below.
> >
> > Malcolm's father was Richard Raymond RALPH and he was born c 1900.
> > His wife was Anna - so anything that would have her parent's names
> > would
> be
> > great.
> >
> > Alphonso Franz GRUNOW, b c 1900 in Germany - don't know when he died
> but
> > his wife was Dorothy Elizabeth GRUNOW nee PATTINSON and she died
> > after 1981. Anything here would be great to help find out parents.
> >
> > Beryl Cassiem Steel GIRLING born 13 May 1910, Durban. Anyway of
> finding
> > her parents would be great.
> >
> > Patricia Ethna - not sure which is the first name - FLETCHER born c
> > 1936. She is still alive, but anything to find her parents would be
> > great - this is the most important one as her grandfather may have
> been
> > born in NZ. Her mother may have been Ivy or Myrtle. She married
> > Robert Turner.
> >
> > Anything would be much appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks so much. Hope you have a lovely holiday Jan
> >
> >
> >
> >
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