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From: "dpratt" <>
Subject: Re: [[ZA] A Delicate Matter?]
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:39:26 +0200
References: <475HJea4v9200S07.1065315347@cmsweb07.cms.usa.net>


Hi Keith
I'm sure your ancestors behaviour is not unique. What interests me is -
what if I have a MEINTJES (or any other Name really I suppose) in my parish?
Do I pretend they are all from a completely isolated and separate wing of
the family or do I make the connection. That is badly put. What I mean is
when people on this list ask about TROLLIPs (a name I 've seen alot
recently) do I given them dear old Mrs TROLLIP's address or is this going to
hurt both Mrs TROLLIP and the inquirer who doesn't want to know about her
great grandfather's indiscretions?

One family in my parish is Ruth Hendricks. Her maiden name was OHLSON and
her grandfather OHLSON was a German farmer. On her mother's side she has a
picture of a Mr JONES who was the coachman to the Earl of Stamford who lived
in Wynberg. Mr Jones married one of the miads of the STAMFORDS. Ruth has
a picture of Mr JONES and he is most certainly a white amn and this is no
problem to Ruth (or me). On the other hand when I suggested to someone
whose relatives use to live in 2nd Avenue Retreat (today a "coloured" area)
that they might be of "mixed blood" this lady became very irate! That is
what I'm trying to avoid. In fact I'm trying to avoid all this racial talk
but trying to realistic as well!

Derek



----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Meintjes" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 2:55 AM
Subject: Re: [[ZA] A Delicate Matter?]


> Derek,
>
> Some years ago there was a discussion on the list of the suppression of
> genealogy information when it was, in the words of one lister, "on the
wrong
> side of the blanket".
>
> My own contribution can be found at
>
>
http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/S/SOUTH-AFRICA
+1999+48818721605+F
>
> I believe there is no genealogical record of this branch of my family. I
also
> believe now that the author of the Meintjes family history knew of and did
not
> include this information in the family register.
>
> Best wishes,
> Keith
>
> =============================
>
> "dpratt" <> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Ever since I've been on the ZA and the ZA-IB lists I've seen family names
> that people are looking for and recognised these names as names of
families
> in my parish. Now as most of you know I'm in a township parish where most
> (if not all) of my parishioner are what used to be called "Coloureds".
But
> in order not to cause any embarrassement I've ignore these coincidences
and
> haven't ask my parishioners if they are related to any 1820 Settlers!
>
> Many of my parish, on hearing about my genealogy hobby have expressed an
> interest in finding about their family trees. Some have shared what they
> know about parents and grandparents and from what they have told me I
think
> perhaps we need to "look across the railway line" occassionally when we
are
> doing our family histories because I'm pretty sure that our ancestors did!
>
> Are there many on this list who come from a similar background who can
share
> with me (and the list) any unique problems you faced in doing your family
> history? And here I am talking about 19th and 20th Century family
history -
> I know of the slave registers etc but I'm thinking more post slavery.
>
> Some of the names that I have seen on the list and in my parish are:
> TROLLIP, BECK, O'MALLEY, CLAYTON, BAILEY, BUCHANAN, ATKINS, LEANER, KING,
> OHLSON, PELSTON
> and of course
> SMITH, BROWN, JONES
> ...
> and I haven't even mentioned the numerous Afrikaans names
> WYNGAARD, VAN DER HEEVER, FRIESLAAR, DE JONGH, etc etc
>
> Regards
> Derek Pratt
>
>
>
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