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Subject: [ZA] Illegible gravestones
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:20:46 -0000

Hi Becky,
Good and bad news.

Your Hunwick gravestone from old Grahamstown is indeed a Henwick (Please
bear in mind that the PURPOSE of goinhg into graveyards and recording
tombstone inscritions is that the inscriptions erode and become illegible).
Here is Isabella Henwick, maybe a Daughter in law of your Fred Putatively
Hunwick, since she was married to Frederick W Henwick (W being for Waarde?).

SOURCE
(http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300dl
GEN - Data of the South African Genealogical Society on Gravestones)


DEPOT Genealogical Society of SA
DESCRIPTION Henwick, I - Gravestone.
STARTING 18510402
ENDING 18880916
REMARKS Old Grahamstown Cemetery, Grahamstown, Western Cape.
SUMMARY + Isabella Henwick. Born 02-04-1851. Died 16-09-1888. Aged 37
years and 5 months. Wife of Frederick W Henwick.



May I suggest that you get the birth certificates and death notices for this
Ice and her Hubby, as well as the death notices, since these might give more
accurate information about the man we seek, eg his exact names, and date of
birth, or age at a given time. Death notices sometimes give siblings as next
of kin. Check who the executor of the estate is.

Secondly, The United Kingdom is not as United as one might hope. Ireland
remains a separate island and Scotland has its own Parliament. Both Ireland
and Scotland maintain their own archives, but the archives of England and
Wales are united in London.

Thus, when you refer to the 1881 UK census, I take it you mean the census
for England and Wales, which covers Essex, but not Ireland.

This lunacy makes finding Irish data difficult in London, but not
Impossible. Let me know when you know more detail about your Fred, and we
can try again. At present your name for him is uncertain, and his dates are
unknown. A very long shot, you must admit.

I remain, as always,
Your Most Humble Savant,
Francois Greeff

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:
Hello Francois

Thank you for your kind reply.
Unfortunately my research is very scanty, but I will try my very best to
give you as much information as I can.
I'm looking for Fred HENWICK. This is what I have.

Fred (presumably Frederick) HENWICK, settled in the Albany district, Cape
Colony. He married a Christina DENNIS *9 Sep 1825, +9 Aug 1924 aged 98 yrs
11 mths. I have nothing on Fred, except the knowledge that maybe he hailed
from Carrickfergus, Ireland according to family legend.

Christina was married three times according to family legend, but I cannot
find the marriage details of WILLSON/WILSON, her second marriage. Also,
Christina makes no mention of him in her letter to the archives.

Mrs E Lynar: Misc correspondence
The letter is addressed to the State Archives.
Dated 4 July 1915 from 28 Armstrong Str, Port Elizabeth.
The writer tells of Mrs E.A. Lynar, living in Uitenhage, who was born on
board ship on 19 Aug 1825, a few days before her arrival at the Cape. Her
maiden name was Dennis, she married a Henwick, and then a Lynar. Her parents
were form Ireland, but it was not known whether she sailed direct. She gives
a list of ships that arrived in Table Bay around this time - Penelope from
English Downs, Maria from English Downs; HMS Champion from Portsmouth; Abel
Tasman from Tasmania, Mulgrave Castel, which wrecked off Green Point, Venus
from Cowes, Alpha from Rio de Janeiro and HMS Espregle.
The writer suspects that she was on the Champion and needs confirmation that
this is so.
Signed: E.A. Henwick

The archives writes back to Mr E.A. Henwick and says there is no record of
any Dennis' on the ship. However, children born at sea were normally
registered at Stepney, London, and the writer would be advised to check
there..

I'm not sure how or why Fred HENWICK came out to South Africa. Could have
been in the Military.
There is a Street in Cape Town that bears the name of HENWICK, but I have no
further details how this came about.
In the UK the surname of HENWICK is pronounced HENNICK. Not sure if it is
spelt this way too?
All the HENWICK's in South Africa hail from the same Family Tree.

As far as I am aware, there was only one child born out of this marriage, my
GGrandfather and his details are listed below.
Microfilm #1560874
Methodist Parish Records: Salem/Albany
Item 17: Marriages: 1840-1924

Entry #329
Husband: Frederick HENWICK, 20, Bachelor, Blacksmith, residing Kariega
Wife: Isabella HILL, 17, Spinster, residing Kariega
Date: 3 Feb 1868
Witnesses: Margaret JOST, Jacob JOST, Henry CLAPTON (or maybe CLAYTON)
Minister: John SMITH

In the Old Grahamstown Cemetery there is a tombstone for HUNWICK..

DEPOT Genealogical Society of SA
DESCRIPTION Hunwick, F - Gravestone.
STARTING 0000
ENDING 18590401
REMARKS Old Grahamstown Cemetery, Grahamstown, Western Cape.
SUMMARY + Frederick Hunwick. Died 01-04-1859. Aged 33 years, 11 months
and 15 days. Father of William Frederick Hunwick
Maybe this is Fred but the surname was spelt incorrectly?
Waarde could be Dutch or German, but I have also found HUNWICK in the
Scandinavian countries.

This was taken from the 1881 UK Census, but this would have made his DOB
1855. Can't be the same person when one compares the DOB of his son's birth.

Emma HUNWICK W 59 F Stanbourne, Essex, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Innkeeper & Baker

Fred HENWICK U 26 M Coggeshall, Essex, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Seedgrower 34 Acres Emp 2 Men 7/3/1

I hope my information gives you a better picture.
I will wait for your reply.
Once again, thank you for your very kind offer. If there is anything that I
can do in return, please do not hesitate to ask.

Kind Regards,
Becky
Port Elizabeth

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