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From: "Becky Horne" <>
Subject: Re: [ZA] Re: Barnes
Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 20:36:42 +0200
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Hi Andrew

Thank you for the explanation, re- Gwladys.
Now for something in the same vein pertaining to the Welsh language. How
would they pronounce their "R's"? I am looking for a lead on MEREDITH. Would
this be the correct Welsh spelling of the surname or should I be looking for
a variant? Maybe your visit to Wales might have been too short to pick up
on this. Just trying a lucky shot I suppose.

I know that in England and Ireland HENWICK is pronounced HENICK, but I'm not
sure if that is how the Irish and the English actually write the name,
although on the 1880 British Census it is transcribed as HENWICK. Apparently
the "W" is silent.

Best wishes
Becky
Port Elizabeth, South Africa

Researching: HENWICK; HILL; HORN(E); MEREDITH; DEYZEL; LARSEN; WILLSON;
LYNAR; HENNING; STERLEY; THECK; BEST; BRAUN, GREENER; GLANVILLE.
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Rodger <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 2:11 AM
Subject: Re: [ZA] Re: Barnes


> Confirm that Gwladys is the correct Welsh spelling of the name always
> spelt Gladys in English. Gw . . . seems to be a common Welsh
> combination -- there is a county now called Gwent, formerly Monmouth.
> Welsh is replete with seemingly surplus consonants, the difficulties
> arising from which are how to pronounce them, and where to fit them in,
> though some, like the double-L, are well-known as a sort of gargling
> sound (which is in fact listed as a single letter in Welsh spellers).
> Travelling through Wales last year we were endlessly diverted by the
> strange words on road signs etc.
>
> Gaelic poses similar problems! But the one that bugs me is the name
> Baile Athe Cliatha for Dublin, seeing that Dublin is itself a Gaelic
> name (Dubh Linn, roughly equal to Blackpool, the dark confluence of the
> Liffey and one of its tributaries which was the VIKING port of Dublin's
> equivalent to the Pool of London). Perhaps they called it by a new name
> simply because the Vikings, and after them the English, continued to
> call it by its original name, thus tainting it!
>
> On Saturday, May 3, 2003, at 08:45 PM, Becky Horne wrote (snip):
>
> > McNAMARA née BARNES, Gwladys Janet + 17 Nov 1975 aged 64 BRP Y2 38. (Is
> > Gwladys spelt correctly?)
>
> Andrew Rodger
>
>
>
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