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From: Andrew Rodger <>
Subject: Re: [ZA] Re: Barnes
Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 10:11:56 +1000
In-Reply-To: <01ba01c31161$25578b20$9ea6ef9b@telkomsa2156telkomsa.net>


Confirm that Gwladys is the correct Welsh spelling of the name always
spelt Gladys in English. Gw . . . seems to be a common Welsh
combination -- there is a county now called Gwent, formerly Monmouth.
Welsh is replete with seemingly surplus consonants, the difficulties
arising from which are how to pronounce them, and where to fit them in,
though some, like the double-L, are well-known as a sort of gargling
sound (which is in fact listed as a single letter in Welsh spellers).
Travelling through Wales last year we were endlessly diverted by the
strange words on road signs etc.

Gaelic poses similar problems! But the one that bugs me is the name
Baile Athe Cliatha for Dublin, seeing that Dublin is itself a Gaelic
name (Dubh Linn, roughly equal to Blackpool, the dark confluence of the
Liffey and one of its tributaries which was the VIKING port of Dublin's
equivalent to the Pool of London). Perhaps they called it by a new name
simply because the Vikings, and after them the English, continued to
call it by its original name, thus tainting it!

On Saturday, May 3, 2003, at 08:45 PM, Becky Horne wrote (snip):

> McNAMARA née BARNES, Gwladys Janet + 17 Nov 1975 aged 64 BRP Y2 38. (Is
> Gwladys spelt correctly?)

Andrew Rodger



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