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From: "Tessa King" <>
Subject: Re: [ZA] Joseph King genealogy
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 22:13:26 +0200
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HI there

Thanks for your response. I am tearing my hair out with all the different
versions of this family! I have about three or four trees sent to me by
various folk and off the internet and they are full of inaccuracies.
Children born after parents are long dead etc....I am going to write to each
and ask where they got their information from.

This is a just a quick note as I am dead tired....been copying across the
info on this family into my FTM all day and am completely bug eyed! BUT I
didn't receive the death notices....possibly because of my email crash on
Friday last. Please could you send them again.

I will get back to you as soon as I have some further clarification.

Take care
Tessa


----- Original Message -----
From: "Maureen McCleland" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 8:46 PM
Subject: [ZA] Joseph King genealogy


> Hi Tessa
>
> Thanks for your info on King.
> The people who sent you the King information must have got it from the
> article "Bradshaw's party of the 1820 Settlers" by Dorothea Rowse
published
> in the Familia vol 33, no 2 & 3, 1996 because the following appears on
page
> 43-44 (part 2) exactly as you received it:
> "...Joseph named after his paternal grandfather. He was married three
times.
> His wife, a local girl, Ann Lawrence, died some time after the birth of
> their daughter, Ann, in 1817. He married his second wife, Ann Watts, on
the
> eve of their departure for the Cape with Bradshaws Party of 1820 Settlers
on
> the 22nd December 1819, but she only survived three years of the
> harsh existence in South Africa. In 1825 he married Mary, the widow of
> fellow settler James Jennings. Mary had three sons from her first
marriage -
> Ephraim, Joseph, and James - and a further two children were born to the
> couple. By the late 1820's Joseph had a total of nine children to
support".
> Rowse gives the marriage date of Joseph and Mary as 8 Feb 1825 and the
> "further two children were born to the couple" she has as: Elisha *1853
and
> Ellen *1827. Don't know where she got the dates.
>
> I believe that Eleanor (Ellen) Mary King was the daughter of Joseph King
and
> Mary Jennings and she was the wife of William Futter. They named their
first
> child, a boy, Joseph George after Joseph King and George Futter (their
> fathers) and they named one of their daughters Mary (after Ellen's mother)
> and another Sarah (after William's mother).
> Elisha King was also the son of Joseph and Mary. In the Rudman family tree
> which I received from Janet Melville at UPE in Aug 2001, he is incorrectly
> given as
> the son of Joseph King and Ann Watts - don't know if she has subsequently
> corrected it.
>
> I don't find a record for a child called Mary Ann which you mention, born
> Joseph. According to
> Rowse, with his first wife Ann Lawrence, he did have:
> Joseph ~ Cam 09 Aug 1808
> Philip * April 1813
> Charles ~ Cam 31 Jul 1814
> Ann ~Cam 28 Mar 1817.
>
> No children with the 2nd wife, and then Ellen & Elisha mentioned above
with
> the widow
> Mary Jennings.
>
> Tessa, did you receive the emails I sent you with the 2 death notices for
> Joseph King the Elder, both signed by Joseph King, the younger, one giving
> date of death as 10 Nov 1852 and signed in 1853 and the other as May 1855
> and signed in 1862. You will have noticed how many mistakes he made,
> especially with the names of his father's parents who he obviously didn't
> know - on the one he has entered Mary and Joseph and on the other Elisha &
> Rachel! when in fact they were Elijah King and Ann Worlock.
> On the 1853 DN it is stated that Joseph was married, so Mary Jennings must
> still have been alive then, but on the other one she is not mentioned so
may
> have died by then.
>
> Carl, and/or anybody else I would appreciate it if you have any
information
> which could help with this family tree.
>
> Regards,
> Maureen
>
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