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From: "Antonie" <>
Subject: Re: Passenger Lists!
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 19:49:13 +0200
References: <006801c1ac0c$bea8c0c0$6d90a7cb@computer>


do i buy the books? are they available for reading on internet

Antonie


----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug & Pat Frykberg" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: Passenger Lists!


> Not really by me Antoine. I wrote to the Library as mentioned and they
sent
> me the details of my ancestors' arrival in 1842 which they quoted was
> mentioned in the South African Commercial Advertiser.. There are many
> Sutherlands mentioned in Peter Philip's book "British Residents at the
Cape
> 1795-1819" And ships are mentioned there.
> Pat
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonie <>
> To: <>
> Date: Saturday, 2 February 2002 08:44 PM
> Subject: Re: Passenger Lists!
>
>
> >Hello Doug & Pat Frykberg,
> >
> >Is there any chance in helping find some info on Sutherlands that entered
> >South Africa in the 1800's /
> >
> >Would be ver grateful
> >
> >Thanks Antonie
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Doug & Pat Frykberg" <>
> >To: <>
> >Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 9:08 AM
> >Subject: Re: Passenger Lists!
> >
> >
> >> Bernie, I did get the date of arrival and ship name from the South
> African
> >> Library (I seem to recall a message that said this was now the National
> >> Library) in Cape Town. They got it from a newspaper/almanac 1842 May be
> of
> >> some help. this was all pre email days back in the 1980s, (just the
other
> >> day in fact!)
> >> Pat
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Bernie Cramer <>
> >> To: <>
> >> Date: Saturday, 2 February 2002 08:07 PM
> >> Subject: Passenger Lists!
> >>
> >>
> >> >Hi All,
> >> >I've been reading with interest, queries and replies about ship lists,
> >> >when able ( I'm on a pre-paid Telkom phone) I have entered some of the
> >> >sites listed, If I was living in Australasia, there is a wealth of
> >> >information and so to for the USA, BUT!!! I cannot find any ship or
> >> >passenger lists for immigrants to South Africa from Holland, in 1864,
> >> >from either Amsterdam or Rotterdam. My GGrandfather was born in 1860
> >> >in Amsterdam, the family CRAMER, left Holland in 1864 for South
> >> >Africa. I've tried the Netherlands Lists, for information or
> >> >assistance but not even one reply, and this over a period of 9mths,
> >> >Not a very helpful people, not like the members on this list!. Is
> >> >there any list member who has any information in this regard? where
> >> >would I find South African entry information? does any one have ships
> >> >and passenger lists for this year? any info is better than none.!!
> >> >
> >> >Regards, Bernie, [from a lovely cool PMB]
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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