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From: "Williams, Spencer RE" <>
Subject: RE: SPAMER information and South African Genealogies
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 14:25:11 +0200


Marthie,

Here are all the van der Westhuizens I have in my database:

(1) Hendrik Lourens VAN DER WESTHUIZEN x 3 Oct 1836 Henrietta Wilhelmina
MOMBERG
I am looking for more info on the descendants of this marriage as Henrietta
is descended from a common ancestor of my wife's (WIEDERHOLD).

(2) J.M. VAN DER WESTHUIZEN x Petrus Roelof Stephanus BAARD *4 Aug 1825

(3) Jacoba Elizabeth Ingenaas VAN DER WESTHUIZEN *c1834 +21 Jun 1898 x
Jacobus Arnoldus LOUW *14 Apr 1841

(4) Pieter VAN DER WESTHUIZEN x 31 Mar 1793 Jacoba Christina BAARD =17 Jul
1774.
I am looking for more info of the descendants of this marriage, since BAARD
is a common ancestoral line of my wife's.

(5) Pieter Daniel VAN DER WESTHUIZEN x 14 Jan 1878 Helena Johanna Elizabeth
BAARD.
Same as above.

(6) Sophia Margaretha VAN DER WESTHUIZEN *9 Oct 1890 x Douglas Thomas
MOMBERG *23 Jul 1892 +1964


Regards,
Spencer Williams

BP Southern Africa (Pty) Ltd
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> ----------
> From: Marthie Bredenkamp[SMTP:]
> Reply To:
> Sent: 19 September 1999 10:37
> To:
> Subject: Re: SPAMER information and South African Genealogies
>
> Spencer
>
> Thank you I would like more info about them.
>
> Marthie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Williams, Spencer RE <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 12:22 AM
> Subject: RE: SPAMER information and South African Genealogies
>
>
> Hello Marthie,
>
> My interest in VAN DER WESTHUIZEN is limited to the descendants of the
> VAN
> DER WESTHUIZENS who married females in the BAARD / LOUW and WIEDERHOLD
> /
> MOMBERG lines. These matches were only discovered when I recently
> purchased
> SA Genealogies Vol 5, so its still early days for me.
>
> I currently only have 6 VAN DER WESTHUIZENS in my database. If you
> would
> like further info on them, I'll happily pass it along.
>
> Regards,
> Spencer Williams
>
> BP Southern Africa (Pty) Ltd
> > Tel: +27 21 408 2305
> Mobile: +27 83 636 2305
> Fax: +27 21 408 2204
> Email:
>
>
> > ----------
> > From: Marthie Bredenkamp[SMTP:]
> > Reply To:
> > Sent: 02 September 1999 08:09
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: SPAMER information and South African Genealogies
> >
> > Spencer
> >
> > I see you interest in VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
> > My husbands mother maiden name is VAN DER WESTHUIZEN.
> > Is VAN DER WESTHUIZEN surname complete.?
> >
> > Marthie
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Williams, Spencer RE <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 4:17 PM
> > Subject: RE: SPAMER information and South African Genealogies
> >
> >
> > Hi Coen,
> >
> > Thanks for the response. The SPAMER entry appears on page 267.
> >
> > I too agree with you on the CD issue. Not only will searching be a
> > breeze,
> > but also the data transfer. It took me 3 days just to key in the
> data
> > from
> > Vol 5 into my gen. program. Add to that another 1 day for verifying
> > the
> > information. Too time consuming and obviousy prone to errors.
> >
> > Another reason is the errors that appear in Vol 5 (and others). How
> > do
> > these get corrected in the printed medium? If done electronically,
> > these
> > corrections could easily be sent (via email?) to subscribers on a
> > periodic
> > basis. I'm not advocating the demise of the printed medium ( I
> don't
> > find
> > curling up with a good electronic book on my laptop too appealing) -
> > just
> > augmenting it with an electronic service.
> >
> > My surname interests for direct ancestors are (as per Conrod's
> site):
> > ANTHONY, Cape Town, pre 1858
> > ANDREWS, Cape Town, pre 1819
> > BALAKISTAN, South Africa, anytime
> > BARK/BAARD, Cape Town, 1700's
> > BURGESS, Cape Town, Kimberley, late 1800's
> > CARROLL, St Helena - South Africa, Pre 1867
> > CROOKE, USA/UK - South Africa, Pre 1804
> > CROSS, Cape Town, Pre 1890
> > DE LEÚR, Cape Town, Pre 1824
> > DOCKRILL, Cape Town, pre 1862
> > GIDEON, Wellington, Douglas, Kimberley, Cape Town, pre 1824
> > HENNEKER, Cape Town, Pre 1900
> > JACOBS, Cape Town, pre 1880
> > JANSZ, Cape Town, 1700's
> > JORDAN, Cape Town, pre 1885
> > LOOS, Cape Town, 1700's
> > MCCREE, Cape Town, Pre 1889
> > MCGEE, Cape Town, Pre 1887
> > MEYNTINGHS, Cape Town, 1600's
> > PAULSE(N), Paarl, Cape Town, pre 1884
> > POULTON, 1820 Settler
> > STONE, Johannesburg, pre 1875
> > TAYLOR, Cape Town, pre 1880
> > VAN DER HORST, Cape Town, Stellenbosch, 1700 - 1800's
> > VAN STRATEN/VAN DER STRAAT, Cape Town, 1700's
> > WEESBERG, Cape Town, Pre 1856
> > WIEDERHOLD, Cape Town, 1600's
> > WILLIAMS, Pretoria - Cape Town, 1900's
> > WITTEBOL, Cape Town, 1600 - 1700's
> >
> > As for "other family" (the maternal descendants) - I'm still working
> > on this
> > list and will send through seperately. Surnames on this list
> include:
> > HOFFMAN
> > PAS
> > LOUW
> > LUCKE
> > SPAMER
> > VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
> >
> > etc etc
> >
> > Regards,
> > Spencer Williams
> >
> > BP Southern Africa (Pty) Ltd
> > > Tel: +27 21 408 2305
> > Mobile: +27 83 636 2305
> > Fax: +27 21 408 2204
> > Email:
> >
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From: C D Spamer[SMTP:]
> > > Reply To:
> > > Sent: 02 September 1999 03:05
> > > To:
> > > Subject: RE: SPAMER information and South African Genealogies
> > >
> > > Hi Spencer
> > >
> > > I don't have this fellow in my data base yet. I needed to reward
> > myself
> > > the other day, so I drove to GISA at Stellenbosch and bought the
> > whole
> > > set,
> > > Volumes one to five, with which I am delighted. I must give credit
> > to
> > > Janet
> > > Melville for getting me out of my chair. Please tell me on which
> > page this
> > > fellow appears. There are millions of Louws. I have only one Louw
> in
> > my
> > > data
> > > base: - Hendrik Johannes Spamer married Anna Elizabeth Louw in
> Ceres
> > . He
> > > was born C August 1872 and she died May 1931. Had events turned
> out
> > > differently in my romantic youth I could have had all these Louws
> as
> > > ancestors to my children! I do have a Jan Carel Willem Spamer but
> he
> > was
> > > christened 12/12/1885 see Indeks van doop register at KAB 1882 to
> > 1888. I
> > > have no family linkages for him.
> > >
> > > Btw. I forgot to ask Leon Endeman whether there is any chance that
> > we
> > > could
> > > get these books in Gedcom form or at least in some Dbase such as
> > Microsoft
> > > Access or Lotus. As far as I can see there are a lot of Spamers in
> > the
> > > first
> > > five volumes but at the moment the only way that I can find them
> > would be
> > > to read meticulously through each page and then enter this into my
> > > Gen.Programme. Generations de Luxe the programme I use come with
> two
> > CD's
> > > with millions of names which are of course of little use to me
> USA
> > > Social
> > > Security Death Index ) I would willingly pay GISA another
> R1000.00
> > for CD
> > > access to their data base. Writable CD equipment has become really
> > > affordable. In fact if I remember correctly Janet Melville once
> told
> > me
> > > that
> > > at the University of Port Elizabeth where she works they have data
> > on more
> > > than 400,000 names. I'd love to get my hands on that bit of
> pudding.
> > > Surely
> > > there must be some way that these Gold Mines can be exploited. I ,
> > and I
> > > am
> > > sure many others would be willing customers. It is a bit like the
> > > S.A.Archives problem. Commercial funding for this kind of
> delicious
> > hobby
> > > is
> > > going to be inevitable. I can't face my neighbour, who abhors
> > genealogy
> > > and
> > > loves Golf and tell him that the nation is funding my hobby with
> > their
> > > taxes
> > > and not his.
> > >
> > > Spencer, I f you give me a bit more detail about which lines you
> > are
> > > researching I may well have information for you. Please remember
> to
> > send
> > > me
> > > the page number in Volume 5.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > > Coen Spamer
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Williams, Spencer RE [mailto:]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 1:29 PM
> > > To: C D Spamer
> > > Subject: SPAMER information
> > >
> > > Hello Coen,
> > >
> > > I have the following information (ex SA Genealogies Vol 5) in my
> > database:
> > > Jan Carel Willem SPAMER * c1851 x Ceres 7 Sep 1909 Aletta Johanna
> > LOUW * 8
> > > Apr 1876
> > >
> > > Do you have this couple in your database? If so, it would be
> great
> > if you
> > > could send me any information on their descendants.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Spencer Williams
> > >
> > > BP Southern Africa (Pty) Ltd
> > > > Tel: +27 21 408 2305
> > > Mobile: +27 83 636 2305
> > > Fax: +27 21 408 2204
> > > Email:
> > >
> > >
> > >
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