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From: "Barend J Venter" <>
Subject: Fw: Re COETZEE Family Tree
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 10:40:46 +0200

Is there anybody that can kindly give some assistance to Rosemary

Met vriendelike Venter-groete

Barend J Venter
Tel/Faks (012) 543-1437


----- Original Message -----
From: Rosemarie Carman <>
To: Barend J. Venter <>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 11:46
Subject: Re COETZEE Family Tree

> Dear Barend,
>
> My name is Rosemarie Carman, & I'm trying to find out some
> information on my LOMBARD/ BOTHA & [indirectly] COETZEE Family Tree.
>
> I'll give you what scant knowledge I have of my South African family :
> My father's mother -
> Sarah Petronella LOMBARD b. 21Sep1883 @ Cathcart, Cape Colony, South
Africa.
> marr. 2May1906 @ Pretoria [maybe??], then 13Dec1911 @ Kangaroo Pt.,
Sth.
> Brisbane, Q'ld., Australia to Arthur Ernest RAYMOND.
> Fthr.: Stephen [Stephanus] LOMBARD b. ? in Port Elizabeth, S.A., d. ?
in ?,
> S.A.
> Mthr.: Pieternella Aletta BOTHA b.9Jul1856 @ ? , d. 1Sep1919 in ?,
S.A.
> LOMBARD children: Isaac, William [Willem], Stephen, Abraham, John,
> Benjamin, Minnie, Sarah Petronella [my grandmother] & Dolly.
> Don't know a great deal about this family, but will list the small bit
I
> know [& that may not even be correct?] :
> William [Willem] marr. ?, children: Abraham, Nellie who marr. Barney
> CROUCHAMP [?],
> son John CROUCHAMP, & Maggie.
> Minnie marr. ? COETZEE, children: Abraham, Neilly, Willie, Amy, Sarah
&
> Mienie.
> Dolly marr. G.J. Van VALLENSTEE.
>
> Parents of Pieternella Aletta BOTHA :
> Fthr. : William Willem] BOTHA b. +1833 in ?, S.A., d. aft. 1919
in ?,
> S.A.
> Mthr. : Nellie Unknown b. + 1836 in ?, S.A., d. aft. 1919 in ?,
S.A.
> BOTHA children: Pieternella Aletta, Jerry, William, Benjamin &
Joanna.
>
> I have a rough hand-written note [some of which I can't decipher
or
> quite understand, but I'll write it anyway!] from my Dad's eldest
sister,
> Ellen [Dolly] which gives a few details : "Cartkart [Kathart] believe
East
> London Eilansfontein Transvaal. at 12 between J'burg & Pretoria
or
> Jamieson
> Grandfather - William Botha, wife Nellie. Uncles Jerry, William,
Benjamin.
> One Aunt Joanna Botha married a Harry Turner (English) went to
Pretoria at
> Sunny Side.
> Mum's father Stephen Lombard born at Port Elizabeth.
> At Eilansfontein till the Boer War then went to Pretoria.
Peiternatburg [?]
> for 12mths. then back to Pretoria, left 1907.
> General Botha was Grandfather's brother's son.
> Isaac, William, Stephen, Abraham, John, Benjamin, Minnie, Sarah [Mum],
Doll.
> Mum born 21Sep1883. "
> The above note was written by Ellen Jane [Dolly] RAYMOND [or maybe
> LOMBARD?] as she was born 20Feb1907 in Pretoria, S.A. They must have
left
> S.A. for Australia after that as the next child, my Dad, Claude
Raymond, was
> born 22Dec1908 in Toowong, Queensland.
>
> My Dad turned 90 last Dec., & would dearly love to get some of
his
> South African family details, so I'm endeavouring to do so for him.
Any
> help you can give me, or suggestions how I go about finding any more
> information, would be gratefully received. I appreciate that LOMBARD,
> COETZEE & BOTHA must be fairly common names, however, maybe [?] the
above
> details can fit in with some of your COETZEE info ....somewhere????
>
> I saw Anton COETZEE's listing, & wrote to him - he just wrote
back &
> said that none of the above fitted in with his family - then suggested
I
> write to you. It'd be wonderful if I could establish contact with any
of
> the present-day Coetzee relations - Dad would be so thrilled!
>
> So, thanking you in anticipation of any help you can give me -
>
> Regards,
> Rosemarie Carman, Geelong, Victoria, Australia.
>
>

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