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From: "David Moon" <>
Subject: Re: Baragwanath Research Team
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:06:25 +0200


Dear Lynette,

The Byrne scheme was one of eleven assisted immigration schemes operating
between the UK and Natal,South Africa during the period 1849 - 51. The
Byrne scheme was the biggest and widest reaching of these schemes and was
responsible for bringing the greatest number of immigrants to Natal.
Although some settlers went to Bryne near Richmond in Natal many more were
settled on land in many spots in Natal, from the outskirts of
Pietermaritzburg to the North and South coast of Durban including the
Isipingo area.

This is a summary of information from S . Spencer's book: British
Settlers in Natal 1824 - 1857 Vol 2
The author of this book recently told me in a telphone call that according
to her records John Baragwanath was 38 his wife WIlmot 29 and the eldest
child Elizabeth Grace was 11 when they embarked for South Africa.
Unfortunately she is not on email but has promised to contact me with
further information regarding the Baragwanaths when she has looked through
her records.

David Moon
Pietermaritzburg

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> From: Lynette Litfin <>
> To:
> Subject: Re: Baragwanath Research Team
> Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 5:49 PM
>
> Greetings to Mr Moon
>
> Thank you for your information concerning Baragwanaths in South Africa.
What
> was the Byrne scheme?
>
> Kind Regards
> Lynette Litfin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Moon <>
> To: <>
> Date: Monday, 8 February 1999 5:38
> Subject: Re: Baragwanath Research Team
>
>
> >
> >I have come across the name Baragwanath, referred to in the book
"Cornish
> >Pioneers in South Africa" by Richard D Dawe. Page 24 mentions the
> >Baragwanaths as a prominent CORNISH family to arrive in Natal under the
> >Byrne scheme. The information seems similar to that has already been
> >posted to the list except for a few additional and perhaps conflicting
> >details, eg John Albert Baragwanath, was accompanied to Natal by his
wife
> >Wilmot and four children,( Elizabeth Grace, John Albert, Orlando and
Emily)
> >a fifth child Charles born at sea, but died aged 8 weeks(his death was
> >recorded in the Natal Winess,Pietermaritzburg 31/5/1850). The family
> >settled at a farm called Isipingo South of Durban .John and Wilmot
returned
> >to England where John had medical treatment but died, probably in 1873.
> >The origin of the name is given as Cornish to mean "wheaten bread" the
> >Cornish equivalent of the surname Whitbread.
> >The son John Albert Baragwanath married Cornish woman Adelaide Trennery
> >they had six daughters and four sons and their son Orlando was destined
to
> >become the best known Baragwanath as one of Rhodesia's great pioneers.
> >
> >
> >Regards David Moon
> >Pietermaritzburg.
> >
> >> From: Annabel Graham <>
> >> To:
> >> Subject: Re: Baragwanath Research Team
> >> Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 7:42 AM
> >>
> >> Hi Graham
> >>
> >> I will try and get hold of an email address of a friend of the family
> >whose
> >> wife has been involved with the history society of Zimbabwe for 20
years.
> >> Maybe she can help.
> >>
> >> I grew up in the Northern Transvaal and remember as a child going with
my
> >> parents to the Downs in the Eastern Transvaal where they visited a
> >> Baragwanath, not sure what his name was but will ask my mother. The
house
> >> was built out of rocks and even the pool, I remember my sisters and I
> >> swimming in it.
> >>
> >> I also went to school with Baragwanath's in Pietersburg (they are a
big
> >> family there). Last I heard they bought a nusery, tea garden in
> >> Magoebaskloof. I believe Megan was there with her parents. I think her
> >> father's name was Olly, not sure. For the life of me I can't remember
her
> >> brother's name.
> >>
> >> Will be in contact again.
> >>
> >> regards
> >> Annabel Graham
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Graham Dickason <>
> >> To: <>
> >> Date: 05 February 1999 08:32
> >> Subject: Re: Baragwanath Research Team
> >>
> >>
> >> >I find that on a proper search of my library, I actually have a copy
of"
> >> >Rhodesiana " Publication No. 28 of July, 1973 ( published by The
> >Rhodesiana
> >> >Society ).The article is titled " Orlando Baragwanath : A Centenarian
> >> >Pioneer of Rhodesia " by Roger Howman. The article runs to 25 pages -
so
> >> you
> >> >let me know which way is best to get it to you - i.e. fax,airmail,
> >> whatever.
> >> >As I think some of the information is of interest to our Listers, the
> >> >following is a very brief outline:
> >> >John Baragwanath, a sea captain from St. Ives, came to Natal in the
> >1850s.
> >> >His son, John Albert Baragwanath married Adelaide Trennery of
> >Queenstown,
> >> >Cape Colony. They had a family of 10 children, ( 6 daughters ) of
whom
> >> >Orlando b. at Cacadu , North Eastern Cape Colony,on 25 March 1872.
The
> >> >discovery of gold in the Transvaal led to John Albert B packing up (
at
> >> >Queenstown ? ) and trekking to the gold discoveries, firstly in the
> >Eastern
> >> >Transvaal, today Mpumalanga, & then to the Witwatersrand (
Johannesburg
> >> >area ). Settlement here by John Albert gave the area its name,
> >Baragwanath
> >> > in Welsh - bread of wheat ). An aerdrome was established nearby &
later
> >in
> >> >the early 1940's a hospital was built to serve RAF personnel based
> >there.
> >> >This hospital was eventually handed over to the Transvaal Province
after
> >> the
> >> >war.
> >> >Orlando seems to have spent his earlier years in what was then
Northern
> >&
> >> >Southern Rhodesia.However, by 1905 he settled at " The Downs" ,
North
> >> >Eastern Transvaal. He celebrated his 100th birthday on 25th March
1972,
> >and
> >> >a photograph that day certainly shows a fit & spry man.
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Lynette Litfin <>
> >> >To: <>
> >> >Date: 05 February 1999 02:31
> >> >Subject: Re: Baragwanath Research Team
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>Greetings Graham.
> >> >>
> >> >>Thank you VERY MUCH for the information you have sent me, it is
really
> >> >>appreciated and gives me a great starting place. One of the
> >Baragwanath's
> >> >is
> >> >>on the internet but never answers my mail to him.
> >> >>
> >> >>Could you tell me where you got the information you sent me (for
> >quoting
> >> >>perposes for the book) I haven't heard about the book you mention,
is
> >it
> >> >>worth me trying to get it?
> >> >>
> >> >>Once again, thank you.
> >> >>
> >> >>Kind Regards
> >> >>Lynette Litfin
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>-----Original Message-----
> >> >>From: Graham Dickason <>
> >> >>To: <>
> >> >>Date: Thursday, 4 February 1999 11:52
> >> >>Subject: Re: Baragwanath Research Team
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>John Baragwanath was a St. Ives sea captain who, as a widower,
> >emigrated
> >> >>>with his family of four children per the Lady Bruce a 538 ton
barque
> >in
> >> >>>1850. On arrival in Natal, they moved inland to Beaulieu, Richmond
> >where
> >> >>>they were allocated land. John Albert Baragwanath, ( presumably the
> >> >>eldest )
> >> >>>was left in charge of the children ,
> >> >>>John
> >> >>>Baragwanath continued to be a man of the sea,captaining an early
> >> >>>paddle-steamer between the Cape & Mauritius. At a later date, he
> >returned
> >> >>to
> >> >>>England for medical treatment, accompanied by his son Orlando
> >> Baragwanath.
> >> >>>He did not survive an operation & Orlando was left stranded in the
U.
> >K.
> >> >>>John Albert Baragwanath was an early prospector when gold was
found
> >in
> >> >the
> >> >>>area that became Johannesburg. He was a shareholder in the
Vierfontein
> >> >Farm
> >> >>>Gold Mining Company, later absorbed into Crown Mines. He bought
land
> >to
> >> >the
> >> >>>south of Ferreira's Camp ( early Johannesburg ) alongside the wagon
> >route
> >> >>>from Kimberley. Here he set up a wayside inn, the Concordia Hotel.
At
> >a
> >> >>>later date, the site became well known ( and still exists ) as
Uncle
> >> >>>Charlies.
> >> >>>There was a publication on Orlando B some years ago - written by
Roger
> >> >>>Howman in " Rhodesiana " published in Harare, Zimbabwe in 1973.
> >> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >> >>>From: Lynette Litfin <>
> >> >>>To: <>
> >> >>>Date: 04 February 1999 04:42
> >> >>>Subject: Baragwanath Research Team
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>Greetings from Western Australia
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>I am researching the above name and although I know of the places
> >that
> >> >>have
> >> >>>>been named after them I am not having any success connecting with
any
> >> >>>people
> >> >>>>themselves, or anything about them.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>I would be very grateful for any assistance, the book I am writing
> >would
> >> >>be
> >> >>>>a bit empty without something from the South African side.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Kind Regards
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Lynette Litfin
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
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