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Subject: [SEPHARDIM] FW: Re: Jewish DNA among Southeastern Indians
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 04:26:12 +0000


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Subject: Re: Jewish DNA among Southeastern Indians
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:57:31 -0700

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Dear Mr. Bedley,

Thanks for your posts. I was going to take a back seat and just listen here
to all the wonderful intellectual interchanges, but I have have some
questions. With your clear and complete knowledge of the Human Genome
Project, I'm hoping you might be able to clarify some things.

First of all, I do agree with you about Jewish DNA and especially Sephardic
(dependent on that definition) DNA. I recently read a *scientific paper*
about the admixtures of North African (Berber/Moor) and Sephardic Jewish DNA
being mixed early on in North Africa and am interested in your take on it.
For me, my family I believe to have been a mix in Spain with Sephardic
ancestry is the one I'm most interested in. I don't have prove other than
the name of one of the same appears to have been Sephardic Jewish and, of
course, being labeled FPC in colonial America.

What I'm confused about is whether cultural groups now represent admixtures
or cultural or DNA groups then. One of the biggest things that set me to
thinking is the Sephardic Jewish genealogy that are being investigated in
Spain that have R1b, most commonly known coming through that area out into
Europe. Certainly admixtures occurred down through history. One ancestor
of mine (tied to Boones) was labeled very dark on military records. When I
checked out the various population studies on his YDNA, there were exact
population matches in various areas of Europe but also, most interestingly,
in a very specific area of South America. Anyway, don't you think we should
look further than the 'Human Races' database?

To complicate my thinking on *any* sort of DNA classification based on
modern data, I read about the ancient Basque/Turkish/Iroquois DNA X
haplotype. I'm sure you've been as interested as I am in these
developments. Clearly though, modern Basques, that is since the last two
milleniums, don't show this DNA but show R1b as predominate. What does that
tell us?

Oh yeah, just one more thing. I really don't think it's appropriate to talk
about ancestors rolling over and turning their "backside." Which ancestors
are you speaking of? And how far back? Thanks however for acknowledging
that some Cismors/Sizemores are Jewish, that is, if they need that
confirmation from you :). I appreciate all of my ancestors and believe that
stepping in time to walk in their shoes is an enlightening thing.

Shalom and Cheers,

Donalyn

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