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From: "Judy" <>
Subject: [PA-QUAKERS] Quaker origins of Elizabeth Hicks of PA, b. 1767
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:03:08 -0400

Dear List,

I am searching for an Elizabeth Hicks or Johnson, surname listed in the Carbon County PA history of 1884 as Hicks but her daughter's burial info states mother's surname as Johnson. She was born about 1767, calculated back from her date of death. She married a Robert McDaniel who prior to their marriage in Carbon County about 1785 was an apprentice to Joseph Longstreth of Warminster area. Joseph was a member of the Abington meeting.

Information from the Carbon History and from Elizabeth's 1844 obituary states she "came from", (notice not born in in statement), Perkesy in Montgomery County. As I understand the term Perkesy was a Manor grant in Bucks County, but included Hilltown, Rockhill, New Britain, part of Montgomery Twp., in now Montgomery County and some of the area from Rockhill Twp. in Bucks toward Perkiomenville. She is stated to have come to now Carbon, then Northampton County in 1773, or about age 6, and placed with William Thomas and wife Mary Rhodes Custard. William was a Loyalist and his property in Carbon County along the Lizard Creek near the Blue Mountain, was confiscated by the government in 1776, and William left for Nova Scotia with the Loyalists after the revolution in 1783 from New York.

Information on Elizabeth's Quaker connection comes from the Carbon County history. In a biographical sketch regarding her grandson Robert Klotz, soon of Christian Klotz and daughter of Elizabeth and Robert, Elizabeth, states:

BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCH OF Robert Klotz

PAGE 708

Jacob Klotz, the great-grandfather of Robert Klotz, came to America in the year 1749 from Würtemberg, Germany, and settled in Lowhill township, Northampton (now Lehigh) Co., Pa., and as early as 1767 located lands there. His son, John, a few years later, married Fronia Crous, and also located lands in the same township, where he lived during his lifetime, and where his death occurred. Christian Klotz, a son of the latter, was born in 1789, and about the year 1814 left his native township and soon after settled in Mahoning township, now Carbon County. Here, in 1816, he married Elizabeth, the daughter of Robert MacDaniel, whose wife was Elizabeth Hicks, a Quakeress. Robert Klotz, their second son, and the subject of this biographical sketch, was born in Northampton (now Carbon) County, Pa., Oct. 27, 1819...."

As can be seen by the text above some of the children of Robert and Elizabeth McDaniel married out into the German community in Carbon. I don't believe there were any Quaker meetings in that area, the two nearest I can find are in Stroudsburg PA and Catawissa in Columbia County. Although they married out of the known descendants of this couple seems to have still retained his Quaker origin beliefs, he declined to serve on a jury concering the Mollie Maguires, a group of Irish miners accused of a murder, stating that even if he believed the party(ies) were guilty and they were proved so to be, he could not vote to convict if the death penalty was an option in sentencing. This was in the 1870's in Carbon.

I have done a little research on early Quaker records at Swathmore, with no success in finding Elizabeth's origins. She may have been illegitimate, we just don't know. Any suggestions on researching Elizabeth's possible parents would be most helpful. This is a true dead end so far.

Sincerely,

Judy

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