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From: "gary d wilson" <>
Subject: Re: [PA-QUAKERS] Harmer brothers, Quakers from Wiltshire to Pennsylvania in 1682
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 08:02:31 -0400
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Mr R Carruthers:
Good Day, and I do Hope someone cvan Help You with this Search,
However, I would like to inguire about The Surname CARRUTHER/s.
From My Family History, I have the spellind CARROther/s &
Carrouther/s;
Note:
George CARROTHERS b. 1784, Ireland, D. Dec 4, 1863 (Moorefield Twp,
Harrison Co, Ohio, Wife: (1st Jane HALL, b Feb 2, 1791, Ireland) marr: abt
1810 in Penn, but issue (5) children :
James, b. 1809
John
George
William
Margaret
Marrie (2nd Wife: 1828, Ann HASTINGS, b. Fermanagh, Ire May 1, 1798,
issue (5) children:
Sarah (married James WILSON (My Family)
Beatty, (male, b. Mar 14, 1832,
Elizabeth
Mary
Christopher.
(Ref: Ohio Valley Genealogies, By Charles Hanna, 1990; Ref: WILSON
Family Paper's handed down.
This is just a Shot in The Dark, but the Family go's all different
directions once it's in Nottingham, Twp, Moorefield, Harrison Co, Oh.

Thank You for Your Time, and Hope that someone can Help You.
Please have a Great Day as well as a Great Summer

Regards:
Gary D Wilson
PO Box 476
Cambridge, Ohio 43725-0476
The Sarge
""Honor and Courage""


----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 10:49 PM
Subject: RE: [PA-QUAKERS] Harmer brothers, Quakers from Wiltshire to
Pennsylvania in 1682


>
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to establish contact with any Harmer descendants with
> knowledge
> of their origins. In doing my own Wiltshire research, I have come across
> the
> family of a likely Quaker, George Harmer, senior, tailor, of Rodbourne
> Cheney, Wilts., described in the parish register there as "an heretick" by
> Nicholas Adee, the rector, when his son Samuel, "of ripe years", was
> brought
> to be baptised in 1678. Samuel's mother was Edith. During the
> Commonwealth,
> the births of two sons of George Harmer and Edith his wife were registered
> by the civil register (i.e. registrar) in 1654 and 1657, likely because
> Quakers were probably unoffended by the civil authority taking note of
> their
> births. Samuel, however, was probably born earlier, and only baptised so
> that he could be married in the Church of England after the Restoration.
> His
> daughter is baptised the next year.
>
> Now, I find that two brothers, both Quaker, went out from Wiltshire to
> Pennsylvania after 5 June 1682 according to the following website,
> http://www.geocities.com/roudeng/Harmer.html (from which I take this
> snippet), viz.:
>
> "William & George Harmer were brothers who left England for Pennsylvania
> after June 5, 1682. William (born ca. 1660-1731/32, Chalwily, Wiltshire,
> England) was the elder of the two and was a tailor by occupation. His
> certificate of removal bears the previously cited date and was granted by
> the Purton Friends Monthly Meeting in Wiltshire, England. After his
> arrival
> in Pennsylvania, William joined the Abington Meeting but did not maintain
> active membership. He returned to his native England where he married
> sometime after September 7, 1685, Ruth Skeat (born in Chalwily,
> Wiltshire,
> England, daughter of John Skeat) at Foxham, Wiltshire. He and his bride
> returned to Pennsylvania. William Harmer requested reinstatement at the
> Abington Meeting on September 30, 1706. In 1720/21 he and Ruth and two
> sons
> removed to the Gwynedd Monthly Meeting. He died Nov. 26, 1731, in Upper
> Dublin Twp., Philadelphia, PA, and is buried at the Friends Burial Ground
> at
> Philadelphia. Ruth (Skeat) Harmer died Dec. 25, 1748 and is buried at the
> same location. William's will mentions 8 children but only Ruth and John
> by
> name. Other children of this couple have been identified as Elizabeth who
> married Joseph Townsend, Jane who married John Bradfield and William who
> married Eleanor Richardson. Our connection to this family is through Jane
> Harmer. I have seen this family pedigree extending back to 1537, but
> after
> checking it out, I found a couple of discrepancies to make me unsure of
> the
> accuracy of it. If anyone finds any proof of the ancestors of William and
> George Harmer, please contact me."
>
> I have tried without success to contact the author of the website and
> wonder
> if there isn't someone connected with this family on this list?
>
> One of the two sons of George Harmer, senior, tailor, of Rodbourne Cheney,
> Wilts., and his wife Edith, civilly registered was George Harmer, born 8
> Nov. 1657 (Old Style). He is likely to be one of the 2 brothers who went
> to
> Pennsylvania in 1682. There is no such place as Chalwily in Wiltshire, and
> I
> believe that it is a garbling of the second element of Rodbourne Cheney,
> which was spelt in quite a variety of ways until settling on the modern
> "correct" form.
>
> I would be grateful for any assistance or contact.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Richard
>
> Richard Carruthers, M.A. (Oxon.)
> OPC for Purton and Rodbourne Cheney, Wilts.
> Conducting a one-place study of Purton, Wilts., with interest in adjacent
> or
> nearby parishes, such as Rodbourne Cheney.
>
>
>
>
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