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From: Tabitha Holmes <>
Subject: Re: [Melungeon] European views on Indians
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:25:58 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <3A79A524.B9354343@npc.net>


OH YES I agree with you!!! In EVRY place in this country there is some
kind of Predjudice. I was specificaly talkin about Montana. SO dont
take me wrong there. Somewhere and certain people will always dig up
something to blame somethin on. I hope yal get that :) I was just
specifically talkin about that Rez and such. Hope this straightens that
out :) -Tabitha



--- "Lisa R. Ellis" <> wrote:
> i think we initially took you wrong, tabitha, because we thought you
> took us wrong.... i
> am recalling the posts, and i remember being concerned, because jim,
> our jokester of the
> group, seemed to be hurting yours and your husband's feelings, no
> matter what he was
> saying, and knowing jim, he wasn't meaning to...
>
> in other words.. how could we take this the wrong way??? in some
> area, a hispanic
> american is the most hated. in some, the native americans, in some
> the asian americans,
> and in some, the african american... everybody wants somebody to
> hate...
>
> Tabitha Holmes wrote:
>
> > Good call Tim, Now FORGIVE ME PEOPLE FOR SOME OF THE WORDS I AM
> GONNA
> > USE!!!! It is not ment to ANY disrespect!!! It is only the truth!!!
> My
> > husband has family on a REZ in Montana. I have a dear friend who is
> > Shoshone. There are still towns at out that way who HATE Indians.
> They
> > are still very backward as in the hollows out east here. Out there
> they
> > refer to Natives as "Prarie Niggers" . And they will shoot yer
> butt,
> > if you get my drift :) They are still wild out west, the plains and
> > Rocky mountain areas are still un-tamed. But that is why we love
> it,
> > eh?? :) The natives AND other people in general dont always abide
> by US
> > law. ( Not that everybody does out here) Because in many places,
> there
> > is no law. I hope yall get what I am tryin to say. PLEASE DONT TAKE
> ME
> > WRONG!!!!!! -Tabitha
> >
> > --- wrote:
> > > In regards to "European" attitudes of Indians, there seems to be
> two
> > > extreme
> > > views which are harmful or eventually harmful.
> > >
> > > 1. There are some bigoted non-Indians (this applies to more than
> just
> > >
> > > Europeans) who view Indians with the same biased slant that they
> view
> > > blacks.
> > > In some places in the east it was and still is, common to equally
> > > refer to
> > > Indians and blacks with the "N" word. (Read the biography of
> Edward
> > > R
> > > Murrow, America's greatest journalist who was part Indian). In
> > > western areas
> > > there are some bigoted non-Indians who view all Indians as drunks
> and
> > >
> > > immoral. These are negative racist views.
> > >
> > > 2. There is another racist view which either pities Indians as
> the
> > > ultimate
> > > victims or glorifies them as romantic stereotypical demi-gods who
> can
> > > do no
> > > wrong. Indians have been cruelly victimized but they have also
> > > achieved many
> > > successes and won many battles in spite of prejudice and
> genocide.
> > > But
> > > Indians are also regular people who sometimes screw up like
> everybody
> > > else.
> > > Some Indian nations held Africans as chattel slaves and still
> today
> > > many
> > > Indians disdain African-Americans as badly as any white bigot.
> Some
> > > of the
> > > problems facing Indians today are a result of their own mistakes,
> > > others are
> > > not. This can be said of everybody.
> > >
> > > Whether white prejudice or white guilt, both are equally harmful
> to
> > > blacks
> > > and Indians and there are always unscrupulous people to exploit
> these
> > >
> > > attitudes. In all races there are heroes and villains, but the
> > > majority of us
> > > are just plain ole common folks who are sometimes heroes and
> > > sometimes
> > > villains.
> > >
> > > Pardon if I state the obvious.
> > >
> > > Tim Hashaw
> > > Houston, Texas
> > >
> > >
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