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From: Tabitha Holmes <>
Subject: Re: [Melungeon] Inquiry/ Tobacco,4 winds
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:22:26 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <3A79A422.4243DE9A@npc.net>


Black, White, Red, Yellow, are the colors of the 4 Winds- the 4
cardinl directions. Now from tribe to tribe they MAY VARY inplacement n
a wheel. Most known as Medicine Wheel. - Tabitha

Natives dont smoke Tobacco like cigarretes. Lots do smoke cigs though.
they use it for lots of things. Smoke is considered healing/ cleansing.
But it is used for lots of other stuff that I cant really say on here
:) Sorry :)

As for Pot, weed Mary Juana, ect, this is accually Shunned among
natives. Because it affects yer head.
--- "Lisa R. Ellis" <> wrote:
> this brings up a question for me, that i know that i heard, but i am
> getting the cultures mixed up i think... i know that green stands for
> growth and fertility-at least i think it does, or maybe, they colors
> are
> not significant here, but they seem to be.. what do the black, white,
> red,
> green, yellows stand for in these cases? and, do all tribes commonly
> believe that these colors stand for the same thing, or is it
> different for
> each tribe?? also, i know that marijuana is used for insecticide, and
> glaucoma... but what other medicinal uses are tobacco used for?? i
> know i
> should know this question, but, maybe because of the chronic abuse
> and many
> many illnesses in my family because of tobacco, i think i am blocking
> out
> any "good" that tobacco could have.... i am not a marijuana smoker,
> but
> because of it's far more useful medicinal options, i would think that
> native americans would be more appreciative of that, then the
> tobacco.....
>
> Tabitha Holmes wrote:
>
> > Well, said Joe!!! This stuff is very important :) -Tabitha
> >
> > --- Joe Showalter <> wrote:
> > > Tabitha and Clint already answered this question very well, I'm
> not
> > > going to
> > > try to improve on it. I would only like to emphasize respect, as
> > > Tabitha
> > > and Clint pointed out, show respect for everyone especially
> elders.
> > > If you
> > > get invited to Sweat Lodge be sure and thank the person who
> invited
> > > you (and
> > > lay down tobacco) it's a great honor. The tribes here are Odawa
> and
> > > Ojibwa
> > > and I am neither so I am very grateful for an invitation. I
> always
> > > tie up
> > > tobacco in yellow, red, black and white cotton cloth to show my
> > > gratitude
> > > and respect for person that invited me as well as the four
> > > directions. If
> > > you have never participated in a ceremony, but have read all
> about
> > > it, don't
> > > pretend to know what's going on. Be like a child and learn;
> watch
> > > and
> > > listen. Of course when the door of the Sweat Lodge closes you
> won't
> > > have
> > > the ability to see anything let alone watch it, but there will be
> a
> > > lot to
> > > listen to. One last thing; if you have an appointment or you
> made
> > > arrangements for right after the Sweat, don't even bother going.
> It
> > > ain't
> > > like church, starts at 9:30 over at 11:00 and dinner at 12:30.
> > > Things
> > > happen as they should, and everything happens for a reason.
> > >
> > > Until just about six months ago, white folks weren't allowed to
> go to
> > > Sweats
> > > here. Now they can go if they are in the family, like a husband
> or
> > > wife. I
> > > like the change of rules because my two best friends are married
> to
> > > each
> > > other and Ben is not Indian and Silvia is. She is Mexican Indian
> and
> > > I was
> > > going to tell you what tribe but now I can't remember. Let me
> tell
> > > you,
> > > it's not the legs that are the first to go. Anyway Ben was set
> to go
> > > to his
> > > first Sweat and was pretty excited but the night before, Silvia
> > > started her
> > > period early. But that was ok, because Ben could still go with
> me.
> > > I
> > > started out that morning, I have to travel 50 miles to Ben and
> > > Silvia's
> > > house and then another 30 miles to the Sweat Lodge, and I blew a
> > > radiator
> > > hose less than a mile from home. Ben didn't get to go. Things
> > > happen as
> > > they should, and everything happens for a reason. We don't
> always
> > > know why.
> > >
> > > Peace --Joe
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Roger <>
> > > To: <>
> > > Date: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 11:26 PM
> > > Subject: [Melungeon] Inquiry
> > >
> > >
> > > >For you knowledgeable American Indian types on the list. Could
> you
> > > please
> > > tell me in today's world what are: Pow Wow's, Sweat Lodges, how
> are
> > > you
> > > named an Indian name, and how, by who? Can outsiders attend any
> of
> > > their
> > > functions without being shunned? Do
> > > >you have to have a sponsor?
> > > >
> > > >Roger
> > > >
> > > >
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