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From: RAL <>
Subject: Re: METHODIST-D Digest V01 #12
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 02:25:14 -0800
References: <200103171000.f2HA0lK21438@lists5.rootsweb.com>


Who ever put this out needs to clarify it for us.
It looks like we need to back SB443 but it does not come right out and say so.

Some bills you think are for something turn out to be against it. This sounds
confusing but so was this email.

Robin

wrote:

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> METHODIST-D Digest Volume 01 : Issue 12
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> Today's Topics:
> #1 A Geneolgy nightmare!!!!!!!!! [Claire Grant <>]
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> Subject: A Geneolgy nightmare!!!!!!!!!
> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:54:39 -0800 (PST)
> From: Claire Grant <>
> To:
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> From: "Kathleen Atwood" <>
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> Subject: [PRUSSIA] Save the REcords!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Linda Thiessen <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 2:12 AM
> Subject: Urgent-Montana connections!
>
> > This was a response I received from a posting on a
> Montana mailing
> list
> > I subscribe to regarding the destruction of
> ancestral records in
> > Montana! I asked if there was any action I could
> take as my mother
> was
> > born in Butte and I have an interest in preserving
> these records. I
> > thought those of you with connections to Montana
> should be aware of
> the
> > situation and hopefully will take action too!
> >
> > "I would think that the more who wrote the better.
> Make sure the
> > families who write explain that they're interested
> in preserving
> their
> > Montana family records, as the site requires a
> person to put their
> home
> > address and they'll see it's from out of state. In
> the comment
> section,
> > just mention the reasoning for wanting the bill to
> pass - their
> Montana
> > ancestral records. If you have any other
> questions, Patti
> Marchington
> > is heavily involved in Helena. Her email address is
> below."
> >
> > Please take the time read this message and respond
> to those mentioned
> > below via e-mail.
> >
> > Subject: Urgent--SB 443 Hearing update for
> >
> > Genealogists & Historians,
> >
> > SB 443 had tons of opposition from the lobbyist for:
> > The Clerk of District Court Assoc.
> > The Clerk & Recorder's Assoc.
> > The Treasurer Assoc.
> > and opposition from the:
> > The School Insurance Assoc.
> > The State Fund for Workmen Comp.
> > The State Historical Society Library
> > The Secretary of State Brown's Office
> > (I hope I didn't leave anyone out...)
> >
> > They brought up all kinds of things that twisted
> > SB 443 into something that it wasn't.
> > SB 443 only concerns Public Records that
> > are being destroyed in County Courthouses...not
> > anything to do with Workmen's Comp., School
> > anything, etc.
> >
> > Only to give "Notice" to the Public...the State
> > Historical Soc, Historical & Genealogy Soc.,
> > down to the Public to have a chance to Preserve
> > our MT History!
> >
> > I showed the House-State Admin. Committee today,
> > 3 Old Record Books originally from Park County
> Courthouse, that were
> > thrown away. These are:
> > 1897 Voter Registration Book (name, age, birthplace,
> & address were
> > listed for each voter). 1889 Court Ledger
> Book...that on the last
> page
> > has the old 1889 to 1890 marriage records.
> > 1904 City of Livingston Census Book (has names of
> all family members,
> > occupation of head of
> > household, ages, & addresses).
> >
> > These books were "rescued" by a Historian that
> happened by the trash
> > cans by the Courthouse and were "saved" in our local
> Yellowstone
> Gateway
> > Museum here in Park County....But many, many other
> records have been
> > lost forever.
> >
> > Our Park County has thrown away the old MT. Marriage
> Application
> > Books...as many other counties have done, because
> the Clerk of
> District
> > Court Assoc. has said they have to...
> > (None of the MT Old Marriage Application Books from
> about 1865/1889
> to
> > 1960s have been copied!).
> >
> > No Courthouse is willing to tell exactly what
> records have been
> > destroyed, how many, what they are, etc. We don't
> have an accounting
> on
> > anything.
> >
> > I had really thought it would be a simple thing to
> just have the
> > Courthouses to "post" on the wall of the Courthouse
> the list of
> Records
> > that they didn't want (or had no room for). And
> since most
> Courthouses
> > around MT have e-mail (with more coming on-line
> everyday), they could
> > just e-mail the State Historical Society of that
> list of
> > unwanted Records. The State Historical Society
> (that does not want
> > these records) would look on their lists of local
> Historical &
> Genealogy
> > Societies for the area in and around the County that
> doesn't want the
> > records...and the Public & MT State Historical &
> Genealogy Societies
> > would all be notified!
> >
> > Very little work on the part of the Courthouses.
> > No cost to the County. After the listings of the
> local Historical &
> > Genealogy Societies' e-mails on the State Historical
> Society Library
> > Computer database...very little work (not compared
> to the priceless
> > preserving of history).
> >
> > If Montana does not come up with a simple plan like
> this to preserve
> our
> > MT History NOW....a lot more RECORDS WILL BE
> DESTROYED!!!!
> >
> > MT Courthouses do not have the space for these
> > Records...they will not be expanding their
> Courthouse Buildings.
> They
> > say Micro-filming is too expensive.
> >
> > The Montana Clerk of District Court & Clerk &
> Recorder Assoc.s will
> > continue to hire their lawyers & lobbyist to tell
> the MT Researcher
> what
> > Records we can see, what Records that will no longer
> exist, while
> they
> > and all of the Courthouse clerks will be the only
> ones to have
> Access,
> > BUT NOT THE PUBLIC.
> >
> > Please call or e-mail these House of
> Representatives on the
> House-State
> > Administration Committee.
> >
> > House--State Administration Committee:
> > Allan Walters, Chairman R - Hamilton
> > Debby Barrett, Vice Chairman Majority R - Dillon
> > Tom Dell, Vice Chairman Minority D - Billings
> > Norma Bixby D - Lame Deer
> > Dee Brown R - Hungry Horse
> > Don Hedges R - Antelope
> > Hal Jacobson D - Helena
> > Larry Jent D - Bozeman
> > Michelle Lee D - Livingston
> > Larry Lehman R - Power
> > Ralph Lenhart D - Glendive
> > Gay Ann Masolo R - Townsend
> > Doug Mood R - Seeley Lake
> > Alan Olson R - Roundup
> > Holly Raser D - Missoula
> > Rick Ripley R - Wolf Creek
> > Clarice Schrumpf R - Billings
> > Frank Smith D - Poplar
> >
> > e-mail the House of Representatives:
> > http://leg.state.mt.us/leg_msg.htm
> >
> > This House-State Administration Committee
> > needs to hear from at least hundreds of
> > MT Genealogists & Historians in the next
> > couple of days!
> > Please Support SB 443, we need everyone's help NOW!
> >
> > Patricia Marchington
> > Member of Park County & the State Genealogy
> > Society.
> >
> >
> >
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