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From: "marilyn e brown" <>
Subject: Re: [ML] Birthing babies
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 16:36:33 -0500
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Many years ago, before I had children, I read a novel by Pearl Buck and it
was set in China. In it a husband was where he was not supposed to be, but
he saw and overheard the delivery of his first child. His comment or my
version of it has stuck with me for a good many years. It seems it boiled
down to; "If a man had to go through that torture there would be fewer
children in this world." Myself I say if all males had to live two years as
an adult female, one of those involving child birth, things would be much
different in this world.

My hospital was just getting prepared to allow father's in the delivery
rooms when Melissa was born. As I had already had Jamie they asked me some
questions concerning allowing fathers in the delivery room/survey of mothers
who had given birth before. My comment was that by the time I got to the
delivery room I really didn't care who was there or not there as long as my
doctor and a nurse were there. Those are still my thoughts. I have had the
opportunity to be at the births of all my grandchildren, but I feel those
are private moments. Father, mother and baby make three and any more is a
crowd. I didn't even want the grandparents in the waiting room before I gave
birth; when I am under the weather no matter what the reason; the less
humans I have to deal with the better. Jim and my cat would have been
enough; of course I just had Jim and he knew just to let me rest.

Just my thoughts.

Smiles,
Marilyne



On 12/1/06, Peace Roses <> wrote:
>
> My kids were born before the men could be in the delivery room also, but,
> I'm sure John would have loved to have seen his kids born. He was such a
> proud Papa. When they let him see the babies, he said he made the nurse
> uncover the baby so he could count the number of fingers and toes, and
> look
> to see if the baby was OK. Then, of course, the baby was taken to get
> cleaned up, and then probably the nursery. He was there for all their
> births, though.
> Emma
>
>
> >From: "Louise Valine" <>
> >To: "Poppa" <>, <>, <>,
> > <>
> >Subject: Re: [ML] Birthing babies
> >Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 12:18:46 -0800
> >
> >How dare those men. After all they helped put that baby there, it is the
> >least they could do if they had the opportunity to be with the wife to be
> >there. My grandson was with his wife all the way, and when finally had
> to
> >have a sycerian (sp)went into the surgery room also. I think it is good
> >for
> >them to know what we have to go through. When I had my children the
> hubby
> >couldn't be in there all the time and definitely not in the delivery
> room.
> >the old days. how dare they think they should go hunting and come back a
> >week later.
> >Louise
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Poppa" <>
> >To: <>; <>; <
> >
> >Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 1:02 AM
> >Subject: Re: [ML] Horn ring?
> >
> >
> > > Sharon,
> > >
> > > When my son was born I was one of the few men that went through the
> > > training
> > > in order to assist in the labor room and then to be in the delivery
> >room.
> > > The labor room back then was mostly women on gurneys with several
> nurses
> > > in
> > > starched whites offering a wet cloth and some kind words to the
> >different
> > > women. I was at the side of my bride offering words of encouragement,
> >ice
> > > chips, and hard candy. I knew that we (men) can not do much to help
> but
> >I
> > > wanted to do what I could.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > After my son's delivery I was shooed out of the delivery room and told
> >to
> > > go
> > > to the waiting room. This was a smoke filled place with a bunch of
> men,
> > > angry with me for doing what I did. Many of the men complained that I
> > > ruined life for them. One man was most boisterous and profane said
> that
> > > the
> > > men in his family normally went on a hunting trip during the birth
> >process
> > > and came back when the baby was a week old.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Pain is something that each of us as individuals feel differently and
> > > since
> > > we have not yet perfected the Vulcan mind meld so I do not know how
> you
> > > feel
> > > or felt. I am glad that it made you strong and mighty but I am sorry
> >that
> > > you were mad at your man.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Poppa Frank
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
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