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From: Sterling Ruark <>
Subject: [LDR] Re: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-D Digest V00 #210
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 23:30:31 -0400
References: <200005090722.AAA28186@bl-14.rootsweb.com>
Marie and Steve Dabrowski asked about the Puckhams of Md. Icheked with Corrine at Nabb and they don't have it. She in turn e-mailed Mr. Mathews and he advised that only preliminary copies had been made available to several research facilities. She gave no other info.
Sterling Ruark
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> Subject:
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> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 210
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> Today's Topics:
> #1 [LDR] Military Records [Joanette Saba-Sturm <jsabasturm@ya]
> #2 [LDR] Seamans Certificates ["Sharon Goetz" <>]
> #3 [LDR] Civil War records []
> #4 [LDR] MD Archives []
> #5 [LDR] Re:NARA military records ["Robyn West" <]
> #6 [LDR] LOOKING FOR BOOK [Marie & Steve Dabrowski <mdabrowsk]
> #7 Re: [LDR] Public versus Private [Ron Massey <]
> #8 Re: [LDR] Seamans Certificates ["K. Michael or Anne N. Thompson" <]
> #9 [LDR] Research Rating! [Chip White <>]
> #10 [LDR] Re: Looking for Book []
> #11 Re: [LDR] Research Rating! []
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> Subject: [LDR] Military Records
> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 06:02:45 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Joanette Saba-Sturm <>
> To:
>
> Hi list. Just wondering about the time it takes to get them after a request. My request was for my father's, middle 1900's, Navy. Requested them the latter part of Jan. I saw on the last email that one person said ten weeks. I'd heard it could/would take *quite* some time, so I've been "patient", but now I've become concerned. Should I be? Thanks!
>
> Peace & Blessings,
> Joanette
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> Subject: [LDR] Seamans Certificates
> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 09:24:37 -0400
> From: "Sharon Goetz" <>
> To:
>
> Can anyone advise where to obtain Seamans Certificates for the period 1850-1860 Kent County, MD.
> Need information on a Capt. James H. Thompson who operated a packet or steamboat line from Chestertown to Baltimore during this period of time. Was hoping to obtain a Seamans Certificate, which will give some pertinent information, but not sure where to obtain these records.
>
> Any help is most appreciated.
> Thank you.
> Sharon
>
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> Subject: [LDR] Civil War records
> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 11:14:00 EDT
> From:
> To:
>
> There is a website available from which you can order civil war records:
>
> http://broadfoot.wilmington.net
>
> The prices are on the site. It is a little more expensive but you will
> receive the entire file very quickly. They say 2 week turnaround but
> sometimes you get them within a few days. When the file is copied from the
> National Archives they only send the papers they feel you would be interested
> not the whole file. This way you get the complete file. I personally think
> it is worth it.
>
> Pat Friesen
>
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> Subject: [LDR] MD Archives
> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 12:27:01 -0400
> From:
> To:
>
> John,
> I'm a novice geneologist that has made several trips to the MD Archives. I
> always waste a significant amount of my time trying to get pointed in "a" right
> direction. The staff has always been friendly and helpful in getting me going
> in a potentially fruitful direction...but when I find I need to branch out into
> a few other directions...I have to wait around for a staff person to become
> available to help get me going in that direction... Basically, I find it almost
> impossible to do much self directed research; I'm usually frustrated; and I
> generally come home feeling like I wasted half the day--it's user unfriendly.
> Still, half of those days are productive, and I'm slowly plodding along.
>
> Craig,
> You mean that there are better microfilm reader that that? I thought getting a
> headache and slowly going blind was just part of genealogy. :)
>
> Peter
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> Subject: [LDR] Re:NARA military records
> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 14:20:44 EDT
> From: "Robyn West" <>
> To:
>
> I also ordered pension records, and after 3 mths I called. the woman told me
> they are now averaging about 4 months turnaround on mail requests.
>
> If you go to the Archives you can fill out the slip & they will pull the
> record for your viewing. takes maybe an hour or so to find & pull, depending
> on how crowded they are. however it was much quicker/easier than the mail
> request.
>
> several of my pulls came back because they are renovating the military
> records storage, and there is a sign up telling you which ones are
> inaccessible at the moment. don't know if that is still going on, this was
> about 2 mths. ago. they are worth the wait, though; those pension records
> are a genealogist's dream.
>
> robyn
>
> >
>
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> Subject: [LDR] LOOKING FOR BOOK
> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 05:56:21 -0700
> From: Marie & Steve Dabrowski <>
> To:
>
> Hi Everybody!
>
> Does anyone know where I can purchase the 'controversial' book: "The
> Puckhams of Maryland, 1682-1910; seeds from an African American-Indian
> union" by Harry Bradshaw Matthews.
>
> I have searched the web over, but I can only find it in libraries. I
> want to buy it-- so If anyone knows where I may puchase it--- please
> email me at:
>
> As always I love this board. It is my utmost favorite--- becuase of all
> of you. I want to thank you to everyone for providing me a wonderful
> and enjoyable Delmarva education.
>
> Marie in Va
> Researching: Elliott, Puckum, McGrath & Foxwell--- The Muddy Hole Gang
> of Capitola, Wicomico Co., MD.
>
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> Subject: Re: [LDR] Public versus Private
> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 18:56:42 -0400
> From: Ron Massey <>
> To:
>
> Hi John,
>
> I just wanted to add a hearty AMEN! to your reply. I would also like to add a
> point concerning the Maryland Historical Society. Nobody can dispute, that
> the MHS has a wonderful collection. However, their history has been one of
> conspicuous disinterest in items related to the Eastern Shore. Since their
> founders and main financial support have always come from Baltimore and the
> counties around it, their collecting interests have focused on that area
> also. Public, tax supported depositories would probably not relect this
> prejudice. Even the publically supported Pratt Library in Baltimore built an
> amazing (and often overlooked) collection of Eastern Shore newspapers.
>
> Ron
>
> John Lyon wrote:
>
> > Message text written by Dave Kearney
> > >
> > Just for the sake of thought, do the constructive criticisms of the public
> > archives suggest that the private sector would do a better job at
> > maintaining certain archives, and providing proper access to the public
> > (i.e., us)?
> > <
> >
> > Excuse me? I don't think you want to go there. Privatizing this
> > most basic of governmental functions - government records
> > retention - in which genealogical interests are only one corner
> > of the clientele, is a giant leap from "constructive criticisms".
> >
> > Private entities, such as the Maryland Historical Society and the
> > various special genealogical libraries around the country, perform
> > a *complementary*, not competitive, mission to the public functions
> > of the Archives. Both are necessary - and, believe me, both have
> > their little warts.
> >
> > Better to talk evolution than revolution.
> >
> > John Lyon
> >
> > ==== LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Mailing List ====
> > Have you seen the *GHOTES web page?
> > (*Genealogy and History of the Eastern Shore of Virginia)
> > http://www.esva.net/ghotes/
>
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> Subject: Re: [LDR] Seamans Certificates
> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 17:31:35 -0700
> From: "K. Michael or Anne N. Thompson" <>
> To:
>
> Sharon, These records are located at the National Archives on the Mall in
> Washington, D.C. Last year I went looking for records of Alexander Thompson
> of Dorchester and Queen Anne's Counties, circa 1850. Try their web site
> http://www.nara.gov as a start. If my memory serves me, there are indexes
> of ports/surnames.
>
> Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sharon Goetz" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 6:24 AM
> Subject: [LDR] Seamans Certificates
>
> > Can anyone advise where to obtain Seamans Certificates for the period
> 1850-1860 Kent County, MD.
> > Need information on a Capt. James H. Thompson who operated a packet or
> steamboat line from Chestertown to Baltimore during this period of time.
> Was hoping to obtain a Seamans Certificate, which will give some pertinent
> information, but not sure where to obtain these records.
> >
> > Any help is most appreciated.
> > Thank you.
> > Sharon
> >
> >
> > ==== LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Mailing List ====
> > Visit the VAGenWeb site -
> > Virginia's entryway to the USGenWeb Project!
> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagenweb/
> >
> >
>
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> Subject: [LDR] Research Rating!
> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 23:09:51 -0400
> From: Chip White <>
> To:
>
> I live twenty minutes from Washington, DC. and take advantage of the
> research centers.
> 1. National Archives....You must know how, when, where & whom you are
> looking for or your wasting time. Been there...done it
> several...hatefull.
> 2. Lib. of Congress.... a little better, very small research area, if
> catalog cards are used, can take several hours to pull the book...be
> sure its the one you want. This is referring only to genealogy. The rest
> is unbelievable...a must see. Staff; will give instructions so fast and
> turn away before you can say "what?"
> 3. DAR ... The only place you can go in DC., and just plain search from
> scratch and come out ahead. Regardless of how crowded, it wont
> interfere. If no seating is left on main floor, go up to the tables or
> desks on the second floor balcony over looking the library. One area is
> for published family books (thousands) A - Z. The main floor is rowed by
> States, than counties. Up stairs everything else, including most
> Countries around the world. Mon - Fri. Closed Sat. Sunday 12-4PM. The
> best for multi State search.......in detail. Staff; Kind, though little
> help its not really needed here.
> 3. Society of Cincinnati... Mutimillion dollar refit...Huge library the
> most complete history of persons & events of Revolutionary war..bar
> none! Reservation needed, been there twice, only person besides the
> librarian. Five minuets, you can find anything promise. Have at least
> one family members name who served ready while making the reservation,
> they can refuse you.
> 4. Maryland State Archives ... As earlier stated by other Rooters,
> frustrating alone even if you find a reader that works half way. Very
> under staffed, though their understanding and try to be helpful. It
> works ok if again you know who, when and where.
> 5. McNabb Research Center, Salisbury ...For Eastern Shore genealogy and
> history ...No wasted space. Though small in space, it works. For the
> meek beginner or a blood sucking, bone hungry I want to know everything
> kind of researcher ...this is the place .. period. As busy as my life
> is, I have no time to waste "special time" and get frustrated even with
> my self when I`m not sure what I`m looking at times. At McNabb I have
> stumbled by accident into more family history than knowing what I was
> looking for at other libraries. Staff; When not real real busy they will
> get you started, (walk you around, not a point there) and darned if they
> wont come back and check on how your making out. Common place to see a
> staff member as well as the director pull up a chair with a researcher,
> quickly review their research, than advice on additional possibilities
> of sources or ideas. They have scraped me from the brick wall more than
> once, thetas the Gods truth.
> 6.Maryland Historical Society .. Only been there twice with little time,
> but was pleased and will go back. Copying very expensive .. I think.
> Unlike DAR or McNabb where you can freely talk with other researchers,
> its a very quiet environment. Staff; They will greet you at the door,
> than disappear. If you find them later, don`t ask ..I swear the`ll bite
> your head off.
> 7. The LDR list .. When its to cold or to hot in the season and most
> stay indoors..the data flows. I could go on and on but will spare you.
> Combined and used ins ink with the Web sites, this Rooters have become a
> irreplaceable source. At least four times a year I will receive to die
> for info from this list that causes me take a day and drive to the Shore
> to see for my self. The annual gathering of fellow researchers for this
> list is creeping up soon....come see, and experience your ancestral
> stomping grounds.
> 8. Dover, De. Fantastic place and resources. Staff knows their there
> for you, it shows.
> 9. Eastern Shore Library at Accomac, ok, fair maybe I missed something.
> Now the people of Accomac, Co. will stop their day for you. Chances are,
> if your on this list, your folks probably started or stopped at one time
> on their way to Maryland.
> 10. Don`t forget the Virginia Eastern Shore. Families very tied in
> together with those in Maryland. Serious research and researchers no
> doubt. http://www.esva.net/ghotes
>
> Chip White
>
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> Subject: [LDR] Re: Looking for Book
> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 23:47:51 EDT
> From:
> To:
>
> Try < (Harry Matthews)> the author.
>
> George Matthews
>
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> Subj: [LDR] LOOKING FOR BOOK
> Date: 5/8/00 6:31:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time
> From: (Marie & Steve Dabrowski)
> To:
>
> Hi Everybody!
>
> Does anyone know where I can purchase the 'controversial' book: "The
> Puckhams of Maryland, 1682-1910; seeds from an African American-Indian
> union" by Harry Bradshaw Matthews. . . . .
>
> Marie in Va
>
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> Subject: Re: [LDR] Research Rating!
> Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 00:44:38 EDT
> From:
> To:
>
> In a message dated 05/08/2000 11:15:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> writes:
>
> << I live twenty minutes from Washington, DC. and take advantage of the
> research centers.
> 1. National Archives....You must know how, when, where & whom you are
> looking for or your wasting time. Been there...done it
> several...hatefull <snip>
> 10. Don`t forget the Virginia Eastern Shore. Families very tied in
> together with those in Maryland. Serious research and researchers no
> doubt. http://www.esva.net/ghotes
>
> Chip White >>
>
> Chip......
> What great information and insight you have provided!!!!
> Thank you!
> Jayne
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