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From: "Bob and Sue Rezek" <>
Subject: Re: [IOWA] IOWA BIRTH RECORDS TO CLOSE
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 21:20:51 -0600

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01BF6E8C.8C5DD660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That is a very good point, Connie. Susan ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Keith/Connie Street=20 To: =20 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [IOWA] IOWA BIRTH RECORDS TO CLOSE Please remember when you are writing letters to emphasize that this is = an issue of democracy not genealogy. Anyone has the right to go into a courthouse or city hall and look at records without giving a reason. The minute we lose that right, it is = the beginning of totalitarian government and fascism. The information found in these records is published in newspapers = every day. Closing the records in the courthouses is not going to stop fraud!!. Connie Street 325 Franklin Ave, Wapello, IA 52653-1515 319-523-8164 -----Original Message----- From: The Craig's <> To: <> Date: Thursday, February 03, 2000 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [IOWA] IOWA BIRTH RECORDS TO CLOSE >Everyone...please send an email to the Iowa governor at the site = given below >to give your input to the importance of the public records = everywhere. >Marilyn >Spencer, Iowa >-----Original Message----- >From: Richard Harrison <> >To: <> >Date: Thursday, February 03, 2000 2:44 PM >Subject: [IOWA] IOWA BIRTH RECORDS TO CLOSE > > >>The Iowa State Department of Health, Vital Records Division, would = like >>to see all birth records less than 95 years old closed to the public = at >>the county level and have drafted a bill to this effect to be taken = up >>by the legislature. According to Larry Coghlan of the Vital Records >>Dept., "The proposal is to make birth certificates 95 years old and >>older available for inspection and copying at the county level. The = rest >>of the birth certificates would require a direct and tangible = interest >>to obtain a copy. It is being proposed because of the identity theft >>(fraud) that has been taking place throughout the United States." >> >>This proposal raises a number of questions: Is it really necessary = to >>close 95 years of records to address this problem? How will moving = the >>records from the county level to the state level make it any more = (or >>less) difficult for people interested in committing fraud? How will = they >>define "direct and tangible interest"? Will state employees have the >>time and inclination to REALLY search the records for your ancestor, = or >>will they keep the money and say "Not Found!" when the record is not >>exactly where it should be but just a few lines or pages away? Can = they >>take the time to search for possible misspellings or decipher = illegible >>handwriting? If ISDH gets this passed for birth records will all the >>other records will follow suit? Is this an ill-conceived plan to = punish >>the innocent (genealogists and others who need access to these = records) >>instead of the guilty (those who commit fraud)? >> >>We need to ask questions, now. If you cherish your right to have all >>your county records available at your county courthouse, now is the = time >>to speak up. WRITE. CALL. EMAIL. your county officials, state >>representative, and yes, even Governor Vilsack. If you don't speak = up >>now, it might be too late. >> >>CONTACT INFORMATION >> >>The Honorable Governor Vilsack >>Mailing Address: Office of the Governor >> State Capitol >> Des Moines, IA 50319 >>Phone or Fax: (515) 281-5211 (515) phone :: 281-6611 fax >>Email the Governor: = >>http://www.state.ia.us/governor/comments/capitol_correspond/index.html >> >>The web page below has links to District Maps and to the emails of = all >>the Iowa Senators and Representatives. Send an email to the ones >>representing your county of interest: >> http://www.legis.state.ia.us/Members/78GA-members.html. >> >>I will post the bill number and the names of committee members as = soon >>as that information is available. >> >>-Richard >> >>-- >>Richard Harrison/Encinitas, San Diego, California >>IAGenWeb State Coord.: http://www.rootsweb.com/~iagenweb/index.htm >>IAGEN-L List Owner: >>IOWA-L List Owner: >>Jones Co. IAGenWeb Coord.: = http://www.rootsweb.com/~iajones/index.htm >>Jones Co. List Owner: >>Richard's Genealogy: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard >> >> >>=3D=3D=3D=3D IOWA Mailing List =3D=3D=3D=3D >>Census Info: http://www.rootsweb.com/~iagenweb/census/census.htm >>USCensus: = http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/states/iowa/iowa.htm >>Census Online: http://www.census-online.com/links/IA.html >> = >>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. >>RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: >>http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >> >> > > >=3D=3D=3D=3D IOWA Mailing List =3D=3D=3D=3D >Census Info: http://www.rootsweb.com/~iagenweb/census/census.htm >USCensus: = http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/states/iowa/iowa.htm >Census Online: http://www.census-online.com/links/IA.html > = >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >12.8 million individuals and counting. >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ =3D=3D=3D=3D IOWA Mailing List =3D=3D=3D=3D This list is sponsored by the supporters of ROOTSWEB. Find out how you can join. http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. http://pml.rootsweb.com/ Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01BF6E8C.8C5DD660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3401" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV>That is a very good point, Connie.</DIV> <DIV>Susan</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black">From:=20 <A href=3D"mailto:" = title=>Keith/Connie=20 Street</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">To: <A = href=3D"mailto:"=20 title=></A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Thursday, February 03, = 2000 5:42=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: Re: [IOWA] IOWA BIRTH = RECORDS TO=20 CLOSE</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>Please remember when you are writing letters to = emphasize that=20 this is an issue of democracy not genealogy. Anyone has the = right to=20 go into a courthouse or city hall and look at records without = giving a=20 reason.  The minute we lose that right, it is the beginning of = totalitarian government and fascism. The information found in = these=20 records is published in newspapers every day. Closing the records = in the=20 courthouses is not going to stop fraud!!. Connie Street <A=20 href=3D"mailto:"></A> 325 = Franklin Ave,=20 Wapello, IA 52653-1515 319-523-8164 -----Original=20 Message----- From: The Craig's <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:"></A>> To: = <A=20 href=3D"mailto:"></A> <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:"></A>> Date: = Thursday, February 03, 2000 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [IOWA] IOWA BIRTH = RECORDS=20 TO CLOSE >Everyone...please send an email to the Iowa = governor=20 at the site given below >to give your input to the importance = of the=20 public records everywhere. >Marilyn >Spencer,=20 Iowa >-----Original Message----- >From: Richard Harrison = <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:"></A>> = >To:=20 <A href=3D"mailto:"></A> <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:"></A>> >Da= te:=20 Thursday, February 03, 2000 2:44 PM >Subject: [IOWA] IOWA BIRTH = RECORDS=20 TO CLOSE > > >>The Iowa State Department of = Health, Vital=20 Records Division, would like >>to see all birth records less = than 95=20 years old closed to the public at >>the county level and have = drafted=20 a bill to this effect to be taken up >>by the legislature. = According=20 to Larry Coghlan of the Vital Records >>Dept., "The proposal = is to=20 make birth certificates 95 years old and >>older available = for=20 inspection and copying at the county level. The rest >>of the = birth=20 certificates would require a direct and tangible = interest >>to obtain=20 a copy. It is being proposed because of the identity = theft >>(fraud)=20 that has been taking place throughout the United=20 States." >> >>This proposal raises a number of = questions: Is=20 it really necessary to >>close 95 years of records to address = this=20 problem? How will moving the >>records from the county level = to the=20 state level make it any more (or >>less) difficult for people = interested in committing fraud? How will they >>define = "direct and=20 tangible interest"? Will state employees have the >>time and=20 inclination to REALLY search the records for your ancestor, = or >>will=20 they keep the money and say "Not Found!" when the record is=20 not >>exactly where it should be but just a few lines or = pages away?=20 Can they >>take the time to search for possible misspellings = or=20 decipher illegible >>handwriting? If ISDH gets this passed = for birth=20 records will all the >>other records will follow suit? Is = this an=20 ill-conceived plan to punish >>the innocent (genealogists and = others=20 who need access to these records) >>instead of the guilty = (those who=20 commit fraud)? >> >>We need to ask questions, now. = If you=20 cherish your right to have all >>your county records = available at=20 your county courthouse, now is the time >>to speak up. WRITE. = CALL.=20 EMAIL. your county officials, state >>representative, and = yes, even=20 Governor Vilsack. If you don't speak up >>now, it might be = too=20 late. >> >>CONTACT = INFORMATION >> >>The=20 Honorable Governor Vilsack >>Mailing Address: Office of the=20 Governor >> State Capitol >> Des Moines, IA=20 50319 >>Phone or Fax: (515) 281-5211 (515) phone :: 281-6611=20 fax >>Email the Governor: >><A=20 = href=3D"http://www.state.ia.us/governor/comments/capitol_correspond/index= .html">http://www.state.ia.us/governor/comments/capitol_correspond/index.= html</A> >> >>The=20 web page below has links to District Maps and to the emails of=20 all >>the Iowa Senators and Representatives. Send an email to = the=20 ones >>representing your county of interest: >> <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.legis.state.ia.us/Members/78GA-members.html">http://ww= w.legis.state.ia.us/Members/78GA-members.html</A>. >> >>= ;I=20 will post the bill number and the names of committee members as=20 soon >>as that information is=20 = available. >> >>-Richard >> >>-- &= gt;>Richard=20 Harrison/Encinitas, San Diego, California >>IAGenWeb State = Coord.: <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.rootsweb.com/~iagenweb/index.htm">http://www.rootsweb.= com/~iagenweb/index.htm</A> >>IAGEN-L=20 List Owner: <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:"></A> >>= IOWA-L=20 List Owner: <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:"></A> >>Jo= nes Co.=20 IAGenWeb Coord.: <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.rootsweb.com/~iajones/index.htm">http://www.rootsweb.c= om/~iajones/index.htm</A> >>Jones=20 Co. List Owner: <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:"></A> >= >Richard's=20 Genealogy: <A=20 = href=3D"http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard">http://homepages.rootsweb= .com/~richard</A> >> >> >>=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 IOWA Mailing List =3D=3D=3D=3D >>Census Info: <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.rootsweb.com/~iagenweb/census/census.htm">http://www.r= ootsweb.com/~iagenweb/census/census.htm</A> >>USCensus:=20 <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/states/iowa/iowa.htm">ht= tp://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/states/iowa/iowa.htm</A> >&g= t;Census=20 Online: <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.census-online.com/links/IA.html">http://www.census-onl= ine.com/links/IA.html</A> >> >>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >= ;>Search=20 ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. >>RootsWeb's=20 Personalized Mailing Lists: >><A=20 = href=3D"http://pml.rootsweb.com/">http://pml.rootsweb.com/</A> >>;= ; >> > > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 IOWA Mailing List =3D=3D=3D=3D >Census Info: <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.rootsweb.com/~iagenweb/census/census.htm">http://www.r= ootsweb.com/~iagenweb/census/census.htm</A> >USCensus:=20 <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/states/iowa/iowa.htm">ht= tp://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/states/iowa/iowa.htm</A> >Ce= nsus=20 Online: <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.census-online.com/links/IA.html">http://www.census-onl= ine.com/links/IA.html</A> > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >The=20 RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >12.8 million individuals and=20 counting. ><A=20 = href=3D"http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/">http://worldconnect.= genealogy.rootsweb.com/</A> =3D=3D=3D=3D=20 IOWA Mailing List =3D=3D=3D=3D This list is sponsored by the = supporters of=20 ROOTSWEB. 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[IOWA] IOWA BIRTH RECORDS TO CLOSE by Richard Harrison <>

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RE: [IOWA] IOWA BIRTH RECORDS TO CLOSE by "Doris Forsyth" <>

Re: [IOWA] IOWA BIRTH RECORDS TO CLOSE by "The Craig's" <>

Re: [IOWA] IOWA BIRTH RECORDS TO CLOSE by "Keith/Connie Street" <>

Re: [IOWA] IOWA BIRTH RECORDS TO CLOSE by "Bob and Sue Rezek" <>