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From: "Norma A. Zanetti" <>
Subject: Re: [INMONROE] John Helenburg 1870
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:06:16 -0400
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Randi,

Thank you for the info and the advice. I have the marriage of William
Curtis Hillenburg and Laura Alice Axsom (1890) on my list of records to
order from Monroe County. However, I have a feeling this in one of which
there may not be a marriage application. The online index includes the
marriage, but I can't find Curtis or Alice in the index for supplemental
applications. I'm hoping the index is flawed in this case.:)

If anyone has documentation to prove that William Curtis Hillenburg was the
son of John Hillenburg and Martha Jane Deford, I would appreciate receiving
that documentation.

I also need help with the children of William Curtis Hillenburg and Laura
Alice Axsom.

My list of children is gathered from the 1900 Monroe County census and the
1920 Marion County census (Laura Axson, divorced, with three Helenburg
children). The 1920 census includes a son, Earl. Other researchers (at
least 3) include a son, David. Since I am missing the 1910 census, I do not
know if David and Earl was the same person or if there were two sons, David
and Earl.

Thank you,
Norma Z.









Axsom Family Page
http://home.triad.rr.com/zanetti
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randi Richardson" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [INMONROE] John Helenburg 1870


>
> >I think I have the answer to the question about John Hillenburg's
marriages.
> >
> >I checked the genealogylibrary.com index to Monroe County marriages and
> >found the following (typed as found in the index): Miller, Folix to
Liana
> >Sowders m. Aug 4, 1959 Book 3, page 457...
> >
> >So, it seems that Elinea/Linnie was the same person as Louisa/Liana
Sowders.
> >I think the name was probably Elinea because I downloaded a Gedcom that
was
> >created by a great granddaughter of Curtis Hillenburg and she listed his
> >wife as Elinea Miller - probably wasn't aware of Elinea's first marriage.
> >
> >I still conclude that William Curtis Hillenburg was the son of
Elinea/Linne
> >Sowders Miller and John Hillenburg, not the son of John Hillenburg and
> >Martha J. Deford.
> >
> >Randi, will you check the marriage index by the Monroe County Historical
> >Society for the spelling of the names and verification of the date of
> >marriage for Miller and Sowders? The first name for Miller was probably
> >Felix. I'm anxious to see if the name Liana was transcribed the same
way.
>
> Norma,
>
> According to MONROE COUNTY MARRIAGE RECORDS 1818-1881, Linna Sowders
> married Felix Miller on 08/04/59 in Monroe County. Since the book only
> includes records through 1881, obviously the '59 refers to 1859 and not
> 1959. The on-line index to Monroe County marriage records that I have
seen
> is SOOOO bad I would never go there and note anything. If you do much
> research in Monroe County, the marriage record indices available from the
> historical society are pretty great.
>
> As for William being the son of Linna Sowders or Martha J. DeFord, I would
> want to prove that both were wives of the same husband and exclude the
> possiblity that there were two John Hillenburgs involved. Then I would
> locate as many of William's records as possible in which his parents might
> be identified, e.g., marriage record, funeral record, death record and
> obit. You might also show that Linna died or divorced providing an
> opportunity for Martha to be William's mother.
>
> When a young child is raised by a loving foster parent or step parent, it
> is not at all unlikely for that child to refer to the parent as his mother
> or father. Assuming that Martha was the wife of John Hillenburg and she
> married him after the birth of William, I would assume that William
honored
> his stepmother and referred to her as his mother.
>
> Now if someone comes along and says adamantly that William was the birth
> son of John Hillenburg and Martha Deford, I would ask what documentation
> they have that proves the relationship. In the absence of documentation,
I
> would ignore the finding. If documentation was provided, I would obtain
> copies and compare it with the information that you have. Then weigh the
> evidence and make a decision. Contra-evidence should not be dismissed in
a
> research report but discussed in a larger context.
>
> Randi
>
>
>
>
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