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From: "Bernie" <>
Subject: Re: [IA-IRISH] In case you think you are on the wrong list...
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 15:02:40 -0600
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My dear one living in the past. THESE ARE NOT IRISH. THESE WERE THE
CONQUERORS. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND FORGET YOUR SILLY OBSESSION THAT THESE
KILLERS AND USERS MAKE YOU IMPORTANT IN SOME WAY. GET A LIFE MAD AM.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cathy Joynt Labath" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 2:36 PM
Subject: [IA-IRISH] In case you think you are on the wrong list...


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bernie" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 1:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [IA-IRISH] Bio of Jefferson Scott Polk
>
>
> : THESE PEOPLE WERE NOT IRISH AT ALL. THEY WERE ENGLISH OCCUPIERS OF
IRELAND,
> : PERIOD. SCOTTS, POLLOCKS, SERVING UNDER THE DIRTY ROTTEN MURDERER
CROMWELL.
> : I WOULD ONLY BE ASHAMED OF ANY CONNECTION TO THIS KILLER OF WOMEN
CHILDREN
> : AND DEFENSELESS.
>
> "The sins of the father are not the sins of the sons".
>
> This list, sir, is for the study of Irish in Iowa. It is not the "rant and
rave
> against what the English or (Joynts you once knew) did in the past list."
We
> help each other out here. We don't go on wild tirades that insult anyone
whose
> background in Ireland was different that ours.
> I don't believe there was any mention when you signed on to this list that
your
> ancestors must be saints, of any particular religion, from any particular
county
> in Ireland or of any particular political persuasion.
>
> As for myself, my roots are not English...they lie with the Roman
Catholics of
> Ireland...the McNallys of Mayo...the Brennans of Roscommon, the Walshes
and
> Herons of Kilkenny and the McDermotts and Joynts of Galway. My Joynts
probably
> started out in France as Huguenots, and, after suffering under the hands
of the
> Catholics in France in the 1600s, then emigrated to Ireland and ended up
> marrying a Roman Catholic. All came to Iowa at one point or another in
their
> lives and most became humble farmers who, thankfully, taught me tolerance
of
> others. They taught me to love, not to hate...to learn not remain
ignorant...to
> help not be a hindrance...kind of a "do unto others..." philosophy.
>
> Should you, sir, wish to constructively contibute anything to this list
that we
> may all learn from or should you wish to remain to expand your mind, we
shall
> welcome you with open arms. Should you, however, wish to continue to
insult
> persons on this list you shall be removed with the next tirade.
>
> Cathy Joynt Labath
> Irish in Iowa
>
>
>
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