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From: "roselle chase" <>
Subject: Re: [IA-IRISH] John Pugh-DePugh
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 07:33:11 -0700
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Perhaps each state had different times of Irish persecution. In Oregon
there was a great dislike for the Irish for a time. My mother told about
the KKK waiting in front of the Catholic churches in Portland to keep
parishioners from feeling comfortable in leaving and entering the church.
She said they wore the white hoods. This was about 1914.
My grandmother who lived in Portland whose maiden name was Murphy,
told her children to never mention it because of the Murphy Gang in Texas
who helped Billy the Kid.Maybe someone can add to that.






there W
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> If you think about it, there was still persecution in the 1900's.
Look
> at the election of JFK - anyone who was Irish AND Catholic did not get
> promoted to higher official government jobs (eg my grandfather was the
asst
> postmaster General in Nebraska in the 1900's- he said he would never have
> been promoted to Postmaster because he was Irish Catholis- he had a law
> degree).
> We also have 2 relatives who wrote they were born in Ia or Ohio instead
of
> Ireland. It makes me laugh, as people could look at many Irish and see it
in
> their faces, or in their names......and listen to the way they
talk.......
> The work that many of them did was backbreaking. I found a photo from
1900
> where the RR was being built- they were digging up the ground with
shovels-
> no bulldozers then. Imagine the hard work, and the farmers had no
machinery
> either.....
> When many of the Irish immigrated here, they were unable to read, and
> they were hungry. In the book, "From Ireland, Land of pain and sorrow"
by
> Joseph Grady , it says that many businesses had signs posted in their
windows
> "Irish need not apply"...........
> Other interesting ideas from this book : Arranged marriages were
still
> in vogue with some Irish (ie., Nellie Grady m Patrick Ryan in the book).
>
>
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