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From: "Edwin Fountain" <>
Subject: Re: [Huguenot] Naturalization and Denization, John Fountaine
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 14:33:32 -0400
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Marielle Ford" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 12:40 AM
Subject: [Huguenot] Naturalization and Denization, John Fountaine


> You might try www.google.com to locate unknown places. I found
http://www.saintefoy.net/ which will probably take you in the right
direction. Seems to be somewhere in the French Alps as there is much talk
of skiing.
>
> Rgds
> Marielle Ford
Thank you so much Marielle....I heard an amazing story from a distant cousin
just a day or so ago...She and her husband were on a cruise and one of the
ships officers was named Cornu....our first Huguenot ancestor to arrive in
American had married a Sarah Cornu in Spittlesfield in England and she had
died and he was bringing his son and her brother who was of course a Cornu
to the New World. The Officer said that his family had always in in
Normandy....she is going to get more imformation.....things turn up in
strange ways.
Thank you again....
Edwin Fountain



> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Edwin Fountain
> To:
> Sent: 03 June 2004 5:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [Huguenot] Re: Naturalization and Denization, John
Fountaine
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Linda Young" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 4:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Huguenot] Re: Naturalization and Denization, John
Fountaine
>
>
> > Hello, Cousin Ed,
> > You move around faster than I do!
> > I had forgotten about John coming on the Bonadventure from England.
In
> > fact, Cheves Leland at the CHS Huguenot Society said I could not use
him
> for
> > application because he did not sail directly from France.
> > So, how did John, b before 1672, get here? Since he was the first
> Fountain
> > naturalized, he was not born in Virginia, was he? And was our family
last
> > in La Rochelle before leaving France? In other words, is that where I
> would
> > search for records?
> > You know, I sent Virginia email and snail mail a few months ago, but
no
> > response. No returned mail, either. Her daughter is Carol Jean,
married
> to
> > Wm Tecumseh Sherman Ewing. I just found online an Arville Oliver in
> Wheaton
> > Glenmont, MD, but no address or phone number.
> > I must leave for an appointment. I will be back in touch soon.
> > Linda
> >
> Linda, This same Tony with the Huguenot Soc. here on the computer said
> something about a Fountaine family comeing from France there was a Jean
> Fountaine and Mary in St. Foy France. I do not know where that is but we
> should try to check it.
>
> I suspect that John came over and got settled and that he probably went
back
> to marry and maybe even made trips back and forth several times either
him
> or one of the other three, Edmond, John or John the Elder....we would
have
> to check through the passenger lists from about 1635 forward until 1692
or
> so....and see if he is ever listed again or someone with that name....
>
> Well I have to go again in the next few days as I have to appear in a
> wedding for some young friends of my in Vidalia GA...I'm not doing the
> wedding but just reading something that they wanted me to write and
read.
>
> See you later, keep me up to date.
> Cousin Ed
>
>
>
> >
> > Linda Young
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> >
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Edwin Fountain
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 8:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Huguenot] Re: Naturalization and Denization, John
Fountaine
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Linda Lovett Young" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 10:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Huguenot] Re: Naturalization and Denization, John
Fountaine
> >
> >
> > > Tony,
> > > The Fountaines are one of my Huguenot families, as are the
Bruces---Ed
> > Fountain is my cousin. The naturalization of John Fountaine was in
> America,
> > not England:
> > >
> > > >From "VIRGINIA MAGAZINE OF HISTORY AND BIOGRAPHY," Volume XI, June,
> 1904.
> > > Naturalization of John Fountain, 1692......John Fountain, Humbly
> Sheweth,
> > y. whereas by one Act of Assembly made in ye year 1680, .....And
whereas
> y.
> > petition. is an alien born & hath constantly resided within this
> government
> > for ye space of twenty yeares at least & is now ready to performe what
ye
> > law enjoines him to doe he therefore humbly prayes y. he may be
> naturalized
> > accordingly and he shal. pray, &c.
> > >
> > > According to another cousin, Genealogist Virginia Fountain Oliver:
> > Perhaps John of 1692 was the son of Edmond Fountaine for whom, in
1664,
> > Robert Wynne acted as security for Edmond Fountaine to pay McKenny LG
> > Sterling; the security to be against the estate of Fountaine.
> > >
> > > >From an Escheat record: In 1714, land belonging to John Fountain,
> > deceased, was escheated and granted to Mrs. Frances Wynne.
> > >
> > > And, from an early Virginia court order, which anglicized their
name:
> The
> > early Fountains of Edgecombe County, NC, were descended from French
> > nobility. The de la Fontaine family were French Huguenots. When King
> Louis
> > XIV of France revoked the Edict of Nantes in 1685, the Huguenots were
no
> > longer protected from persecution. The de la Fontaines, along with
most
> > other Huguenots, fled France for nearby Prostestant countries. The
> Fontaines
> > settled in England, then to Dublin, Ireland, and thence to Virginia.
> > Governor Sir Edmund Andros of Virginia Anglicised 17 March 1692 (their
> name)
> > to Fountain. The Fountains were in Edgecombe County, NC, by at least
> 1745,
> > when John, son of above John, purchased land.
> > >
> > > We have no proof of relationship to the original Jean Fountaine, who
was
> > in America by 1635. He may have fled from France to England to
America.
> > Would this fit in with any of your records, Tony? I would love to
have
> your
> > feedback on this.
> > >
> > > Linda Young
> > >
> > >
> > > Linda Lovett Young
> >
> >
> > Linda, I've written to This Tony also, but we do have a record of the
fact
> > that an 18 year old young man named John Fountaine sailed from
Yarmouth,
> > Englandf (I told him Yarborough) on the Bonnaventure that went first
to
> > Domenica then to the colong in Virginia and landed there in 1635 or
there
> > abouts it's usually listed 1634/35.
> >
> > I'll come back to you I have to rest some we just were out in Seattle
for
> > the marriage of my great nephew Dennis J. Fountain and then came back
and
> > went to Lyons Ga for a Bible Conference and now I have to go to a
wedding
> in
> > Lyons on the 10th. But I'm putting in some time along the way.
> > OK
> > Love Cousin Ed>
> > >
> > > http://www.rivendellbnb.com/LindaNew1/
> > > Researching: Lovett, Thornton, Fountain, Byrd, Bruce, Mason,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Tony Fuller
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 3:52 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Huguenot] Re: Naturalization and Denization, John
> > Fountaine
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Edwin
> > >
> > > An interesting message you posted about the Fountaine/s family.
> > >
> > > As I have the denization and naturalizations records to hand I've
> looked
> > up
> > > John Fountaines because it seems odd that somebody who have left
> England
> > > (presumably) in 1634 had a great-grandson (John/Edmund/John/John)
that
> > was
> > > naturalized as an English citizen in 1690/92 - why would that
happen
> if
> > the
> > > guy was either an American or his family had been living in
England
> for
> > > almost a hundred years without some sort of registration or
> denization?
> > >
> > > The Hug Soc records of Denization and Naturalization have recorded
all
> > such
> > > activities, even going as far as recording Scottish people who
came
> > south of
> > > the border and settled in England.
> > >
> > > I've looked through all the records for the late 17th century and
> there
> > are
> > > only two people with names remotely like John Fountaine/s. The
first,
> > Jean,
> > > was far too early, being a mariner.
> > >
> > > The other is may well be your guy but there are some serious
issues
> with
> > the
> > > dates that you cite. There are no records for either denization
or
> > > naturalization for a Fontaine in either 1690 or 1692. However, in
an
> > Act
> > > which received Royal Assent on 4 May 1699, a John Fountaine (John
de
> > > Fountaine), born St Foy, France, son of John Fountaine by his wife
> Mary,
> > was
> > > granted naturalization. His character was attested to by Jean
> Rivasson
> > and
> > > Rene Granger, and he is reported as having served as an Ensign in
> 1694.
> > > Interesting time because of the activities in the Williamite Army,
> > Ireland
> > > and the eventual support of the European campaign but the name
does
> not
> > > appear in any of the Irish Huguenot records available.
> > >
> > > Seems like this guy was fairly new to England which means that his
> great
> > > grandfather either left some children in France before migrating
to
> > America,
> > > most likely via England, or there is a hitch somewhere in the
family
> > line.
> > >
> > > Could I also point out that none of the names that you mention
appear
> in
> > the
> > > Returns of Strangers for the UK in that period (including London)
that
> > have
> > > been published.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Tony Fuller
> > >
> > >
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