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From: "Riske, John N" <>
Subject: [HUNGARY] Janos Hunyadi
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:47:31 -0500
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I have been told by my Mother, that my mother's paternal side, are
descendants of John Hunyadi aka Janos Hunyadi. My grandfather (John
Hunyadi) came to America from Hungary in approximately 1905, with his
brother Matthias. I have done some research via the Ellis Island records
and found my grandfather's name on the Carpathian ship's manifest, that
was the ship that my Grandfather, and Great Uncle Matthias, traveled
from Hungary to America on.

I am now trying to do some research back in time from my grandfather,
and try to validate the roots that lead back to Janos Hunyadi, who lived
from 1387-1456. My mother (now deceased) told me that my grandfather
told the family many times, and actually pointed to Janos Hunyadi's
picture/biography in the encyclopedia's of the day, and reminded the
family members that "we are related to him". So, that being said, is
there any research that you could recommend I could investigate that
might help me to piece together the missing links in my heritage back to
Janos Hunyadi?

Thank You,
John (Janos) Riske


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Today's Topics:

1. Re: surname: Dely (Geza Varga)
2. Re: Translation (Michele Varian)
3. Re: Translation (Joseph M. Nemeth)
4. Re: Translation (Joseph J Jarfas)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:29:28 +0100
From: Geza Varga <>
Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] surname: Dely
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Deli _is_ a Hungarian word, although not much used. It's an adjective
that refers to a well-built (tall/strong/good-looking) man.
The ethimology of the surname can of course be different.
Geza

At 06:57 2008.01.15.? Tuesday, you wrote:

>Hi Gerald,
>
> hard to tell where this surname cames from, but found quite a few
>dozen in Hungary today. Not a place name and not a Hungarian word. (The

>other day I was looking for V?ly descendants; called a few people with
>the surname and was told it's origin is Estonian.)
>
>Dely would rhyme with whey
>
>Joe
>Equinunk, PA - USA
>
>
>
>Gerald Kisabeth wrote:
>
> >Hello and Happy New Year. I have a friend and
> his last name is Dely (Deli). Can someone tell if this name is of
> Hungarian origin. Also how would the name be pronounced in Hungarian?
> >Thanks for your time.
> >Gerald (Dobozy) Kisabeth
> >Canton, Michigan


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:09:52 -0600
From: Michele Varian <>
Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Translation
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Hi all, in this case, is Miklos a first name? My hungarian paternal
g-grandmother's maiden name was listed as Miklos.

Thanks - Michele> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:39:01 -0500> From:
> To: ; >
Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Translation> > Hi Ken,> > only this part belongs
to your question:> > "Asztmondja Mikl?s ?s Szab? Nela kisfi?t
keresztelt?k, aki a Norbert > nevet kapta. Keresztsz?l?k: Bot Mircea ?s
Lucia Evelina," - and this says:> > Mikl?s Asztmondja and Nela Szab?'s
son was christened, who got the name > Norbert. Godparents: Mircea Bot
and Evelina Lucia.> > Joe> Equinunk, PA - USA> > > >
> KENNETH CURTIS wrote:> > > Egyh?zi h?rek * Az I. sz?m? pl?b?nia
Szenth?roms?g templom?ban keresztelt?k Bora Andr?s ?s Ad?l kisfi?t, aki
a kereszts?gben a Denis Andr?s nevet kapta. Keresztsz?l?k: Bora Attila
?s Edith, Bora Jen?,Varga Alina; Asztmondja Mikl?s ?s Szab? Nela kisfi?t
keresztelt?k, aki a Norbert nevet kapta. Keresztsz?l?k: Bot Mircea ?s
Lucia Evelina, > > > >
============================================================!
======> > > > I would like to know what the content of the paragraph
says above that includes Asztmondja Miklos. Any help would be
appreciated.> > > > Ken Curtis> > Wanatah, La Porte, Indiana, USA> > > >
Researching: ASZMONGYA, TOTH, PENTEK, KERTESZ> >> >
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:52:18 -0700
From: "Joseph M. Nemeth" <>
Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Translation
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Michele,

In Hungarian the name written first is the family name. So, if your
gr-grandmother's name were, for example, Miklos Julia, in English it
would
be Julia Miklos. Miklos normally is a man's first name, but it is also
used
as a family name, but not very often.

I hope this help.

Joseph M. Nemeth

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Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Translation


Hi all, in this case, is Miklos a first name? My hungarian paternal
g-grandmother's maiden name was listed as Miklos.

Thanks - Michele> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:39:01 -0500> From:
> To: ; >
Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Translation> > Hi Ken,> > only this part belongs
to
your question:> > "Asztmondja Mikl?s ?s Szab? Nela kisfi?t keresztelt?k,
aki
a Norbert > nevet kapta. Keresztsz?l?k: Bot Mircea ?s Lucia Evelina," -
and
this says:> > Mikl?s Asztmondja and Nela Szab?'s son was christened, who
got
the name > Norbert. Godparents: Mircea Bot and Evelina Lucia.> > Joe>
Equinunk, PA - USA> > > > > KENNETH CURTIS wrote:> >
>
Egyh?zi h?rek * Az I. sz?m? pl?b?nia Szenth?roms?g templom?ban
keresztelt?k
Bora Andr?s ?s Ad?l kisfi?t, aki a kereszts?gben a Denis Andr?s nevet
kapta.
Keresztsz?l?k: Bora Attila ?s Edith, Bora Jen?,Varga Alina; Asztmondja
Mikl?s ?s Szab? Nela kisfi?t keresztelt?k, aki a Norbert nevet kapta.
Keresztsz?l?k: Bot Mircea ?s Lucia Evelina, > > > >
==================================================================> > >
> I
would like to know what the content of the paragraph says above that
includes Asztmondja Miklos. Any help would be appreciated.> > > > Ken
Curtis> > Wanatah, La Porte, Indiana, USA> > > > Researching: ASZMONGYA,
TOTH, PENTEK, KERTESZ> >> > -------------------------------> To
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:00:05 -0500
From: Joseph J Jarfas <>
Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Translation
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Hi Michele,

yes, in the given case Mikl?s was first name. But there are lots of
families who have it as surname.

Joe
Equinunk, PA - USA



Michele Varian wrote:

>Hi all, in this case, is Miklos a first name? My hungarian paternal
g-grandmother's maiden name was listed as Miklos.
>


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