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From: "Judy" <>
Subject: RE: [HUNGARY-L] Godparents
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 12:51:29 -0500
In-Reply-To: <003701c3d3ca$52ab2bf0$1b8a1141@computer>


Oh, this one takes me back - waaaayyyy back. When one of the kids was
bad my grandmother would say - I'm sure I'm going to spell it wrong - ah
stadte wahl o gaut, yoi ish te nem. I hope someone can tell me what she
was saying to us.

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Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] Godparents


I can vouch for that Elizabeth. A true story from my family: the 1st
born to my grandparents (Joseph & Mary Szosz) was named Joseph. He
passed in infancy. The 2nd child born was named Joseph and he passed in
infancy. They then had 4 daughters. Then came a son, who they named
Andrew, brother to Mary (as my grandfather called him 'the drunk'). I
guess my grandfather had a fit. He was told that he said, So Mary, 2
sons named after me, and they're gone, so now you name this one Andrew
-the drunk- and he lives! (Now this is not spelled right) Ish Te Nem.
(Which we were told meant Oh my God, why!/ Cauti
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From: "Elizabeth V. Cardinal" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] Godparents


> <<As for the discussion about naming children, I also found it
> interesting that somewhere there existed a custom of naming children
> after godparents. My record search suggests that it was far more
> common to name the
firstborn
> son after the father and the firstborn daughter after the mother, as
> in
the
> above example. Even if the firstborn died in infancy (which was far
> too often the case), the next child would again be named with the
> parent's
name.
> Thus, one family might have several children who were serially
> christened "Istvan.">>
>
> The above is not unique to eastern Europe. The Irish and Italians
> often
did
> the same making research a bit difficult at times.
> The Irish seemed to favor naming the first children after the
grandparents.
>
> In one line of my Tegyi/Tagye family here in the US they have used the
same
> names over and over so that you might have 3 or 4 or more male cousins
with
> the same first name and often the same middle name. It is often
> driving
me
> insane sorting out who is who. I have taken to asking who was your
> father and your grandfather when information is sent to me.
>
>
>
> Elizabeth V. Cardinal
>
>
>
>





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