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From: d pfalzer <>
Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Re: Help deciphering Ellis
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 05:54:05 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <200308081000.h78A0CWT029099@lists5.rootsweb.com>


First your relative's name was transcribed wrong. It
should have been Szetlowicz. I am certain that that
first letter is an "S" and not a "T". Ninay is her
last residence in Hungary. The manifest says that she
is going to Dayton (mostly certainly in Ohio). Her
nearest relative is her stepfather Paul Barabas who is
living in Dayton, Ohio. [If this is your only
information that Paul Barabas is her stepfather, then
I would take it with a grain of salt. My relative has
someone in Cleveland, Ohio who is his brother inlaw.
I tried to locate that person there -- without any
luck.]

As for the location of Ninay, I have run it through
Jewishgen's shtetlseeker. It is the best way to look
for a town in Eastern Europe when you are not too sure
of the exact spelling. [Any town name from Ellis
Island is of this sort.]

Based on the "wicz" ending of the surname, I guess
that your relative is from the northern parts of
historic Hungary. ("wicz" sounds Polish to me.) So
not only should we look in Hungary in the list of
towns we find, but also Czech, Slovakia, and the
Ukraine. My guess based on all this is that Ninay is
really Minay at coordinates 4835 2217 and now in the
Ukraine. Does this fit with your information?

Hope this helps,

Denise

> #4 [HUNGARY-L] Help deciphering Ellis [" Anne
> Sprentz" <-]

> ______________________________

> ATTACHMENT part 5 message/rfc822
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 01:43:55 -0500
> From: " Anne Sprentz" <>
> To:
> Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Help deciphering Ellis Island
> manifest
>
> I just resubscribed with my new email address. I
> haven't posted in quite some time, but just last
> night I had a major discovery....unfortunately, I
> can't make out all of the info on the Ellis Island
> manifest.
>
> Would some kind person take a look at :
>
> Tzetlowicz, Maria (exact spelling)
>
> on the manifest and please tell me if it looks
> like she is US born and where her last permanent
> residence was? I have tried Ninay, which is what the
> text version says, but cannot find it on the map.
> Oh, also there is some writing on the far right of
> the manifest, I think it has something to do with
> why she was possibly detained, but I can't make that
> out either.
>
> Thanks in advance for the help. :-)
>
> A. Sprentz
>


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