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From: Joseph J Jarfas <>
Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] Legyesbenge and Spegimalour Hungary?? Help Please!
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 23:27:36 -0400
References: <F105bMm38IPiZpsL67Q00012067@hotmail.com>


Suzanne J wrote:

> Hi Geza and Marge,
> ...
> or anyone else reading this who might have an answer, I have a question for you.
> Although I do not speak or read Hungarian I have used Pallas Lexicon in search of
> place names many times, with and without success. My question is why do you think
> it has some of the very smallest places such as Szegimalom but neglects to include
> many of the much larger pustas, tanyas, csardas, etc.? This has puzzled me for
> quite awhile and I have asked a few other people including a few at the SLC Family
> History Library, but never have received an answer that made much sense :-) Just
> curious.
>
> Regards,
> Suzannej

> > From: "Geza Szucs" <>
> > To: "Suzanne J" <>
> > Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] Legyesbenge and
> > Spegimalour Hungary?? Help Please!
> > Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 07:16:40 -0400
> >
> > There is a Szegimalom (Szegi) not far from Legyesbenye > in Tokaj Jaras.
> > Check Pallas Lexicon too on the net. :)
> > Geza

Hi Suzanne,

here is my two cents' worth!:-):

Szegi was in there (the Pallas) because though it was considered a
'puszta' in the
1890's (belonging to Bodrogkisfalud) it had a large steam mill and
therefore had a
railroad, post office and telegraph + a bank.

According to Pallas the difference between a 'major' - ranch - and
'puszta' - also
a ranch - was of location: a large land owner established 'major's to
handle the work
on outlying areas; puszta on the other hand did not belong to a village
or land
owner, because the previous owners abandoned it or had to evacuate the
place due to
war, flooding, etc. If somebody new received it and worked it, usually
the name stuck!

'Tanya's were within a village's land holdings, but a bit removed
from the village
itself. Its owner(s) usually occupied it during the summer (and worked
the lands) but
during the winter they lived in the village itself. Tanya's were always
smaller than
'major's (or 'puszta's): less land, less buildings, etc.

Csárdás is the famous Hungarian dance you and I could just do if the
music were
provided!:-) Csárda, on the other hand, was a road side inn, where
wandering, walking
folks would get a meal and room for the night. Also enjoyed by young
folks from
nearby villages, where they could sing and dance all they wanted -
without disturbing
the peace of the night for other folks.

Joe
Equinunk, PA - USA

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