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From: "Laszlo & Monika APATHY, III" <>
Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] Hungarian History, Founding Tribes of Hungary
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 23:30:20 -0400
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Excellent discussion. Koszonom.
Laci


Joseph J Jarfas wrote:
> Stephen Riczu wrote:
> > Dear List:
> >
> > I have been reading the history of Hungary and I have seen several
> > references to the 5 (or 7?) founding tribes. I have been unable to
> > locate any more specific info.
> >
> > What I wonder is the following:
> > 1) From what area was each tribe?
> > 2) In what area of Hungary each tribe settled?
> > 3) What surnames might be associated with each tribe?
> >
> > Thanks for any help anyone.
> > Good Hunting.
> > Steve Riczu
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> you sent me scurrying on the Net to find some relevant answers for your
> questions. Tell you, it was not easy!:-) - and can't provide all answers.
> The supposed seven tribes who united for the new home land were also joined
> by three Kavar (Khazar) tribes whose names I could not locate.
>
> The seven tribes:
>
> Nyék, Megyer, Kürtgyarmat, Tarján, Jenõ, Kéri and Keszi -- these are the
> Hungarian names for them.
>
> The chiefs: Álmos, Elõd, Kond, Ond, Tas, Huba és Töhötöm -- also as we
> Hungarians know them.
>
> The origins of the tribes you can find described on the following pages.
> As to where they settled in Hungary I never located enough relevant
> information to provide an answer for you.
>
> http://www.net.hu/corvinus/ -- relevant English literature
>
> http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/spalffy/h_hist.htm#contents -- some 'dated'
> information; lots of research going on for the last 40-50 years that did not
> make it to these pages. And many of the results are published in Hungarian
> only (and some also in German). I might add, that due to our contentious
> nature!:-), great discussions and disagreements going on about the finds and
> their interpretation!! (An old joke says it all: If three Hungarians gather
> there will be at least four opinions offered!!:-))
>
> http://www.net.hu/corvinus/lib/macartney/index.htm -- specifics of origin
>
> http://www.net.hu/corvinus/lib/timeless/chapter04.htm -- ditto
>
> Lastly, most of the tribal information is legend, collected centuries
> after the 'honfoglalás' or settlement of the (home)land. Great strides are
> being made to locate all relevant sources in Rome, the West, Constantinople
> (Byzantium) and other places.
>
> Joe
>
> --
> Joseph J Jarfas
> Equinunk, PA - USA
>

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