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From: "Hanne Thorup Koudal" <>
Subject: Re: [HWE] Luther was a Huguenot ???????????
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:16:33 +0100
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Hi

Luther was a roman cahtolic monk, who lived in a monastery and who reformed
the relion to a certain point, wich was just acurately acceptable to kings
and other non-clergical leaders. He was "only in opposition to the pope and
roman catholics", but that could be dangerous enogh at his time. He married
a non, who had left her comvent with other nuns. So both Lutherans and
French Reformed Ministers did marry. The difference between Lutherans and
French Reformed are not so big in our time, as it has been before.

Calvin and Zwingly reformed the christian religion to a more advanced level.

All are christians: roman catholics, french reformed (Jean Calvin/ Huldrich
Zwingly/Martin Bucer).
The Waloons were Bucero-Calvinistic reformed, why their influence came from
Strassbourg.

Some of us have ancestors, who were clearly Huguenots and other ancestors,
who were strictly Bucero-Calvinistic reforemed Walloons.

F.ex. my ancestor Isabeau MARTIN-TURBIÈRE, who was livning in Abriès,
Queyras, Dauphine, and died in Germany was Huguenot. She was married
1660-1668 in Abriès to Blaise BEC, born in Abriès, who probably died there
between 1679-1688.
Eugen Bellon: "Scattered to all the Winds (1685-1720)", page 107: "Isabeau
Bec, born Martin-Tubière" passing through Langenzell.

Eugen Bellon: "Scattered to all the Winds (1685-1720)", page 162: "Isabeau
Bec, born Martin-Tubière, widow of Blaise Bec from Abriès. On May 23, 1687,
she passes through Frankfort with her children Pierre and Geoffry and the
daughters Marie, who married one Jean Pez, and Catharine, as well as the
relatives Jean Bec and Marguerite Bec (all from Abriès). These Bec families
came via Hofgeismar to Schwabendort and all settled in Schwabendorf " (210 &
241).



Another ancestor Anthoine LEFEVRE, was born abt. 1647 in Fleurbaix, Pays
d'Alleu, now France, died 31.05.1717 in Walmow, Battin, Brandenburg. He
married (I: um 1672 in Mutterstadt, Pfalz) Jagueline GOFFEAU (Daughter of
Guillaume GOFFAU and Jeanne DESPARON), born 1640, died 1675-1679 in Germany
and (II: um 1679 in Germany) Marie Noë (Daughter of Jean NOÉ, born Rongy,
Tournai, Hainaut, died bef. 1684 in Oppau, Pfalz and Peironne STECLORON,
born 1645 in Jans Cappel, died 30.12.1700 in Walmow, Battin Brandenburg,
born um 1659 in Oppau, Pfalz, died 08.09.1719 in Walmow. These people were
Walloons and can be found in "Fiches Wallones". But can we be sure, that
only Wallones were mentioned in "Fiches Wallones", or could Hugenots, who
passed through Netherlands and stayed long enough to be a member of a church
also be mentioned in "Fiches Wallones" de Leide.



For some ancestors, we do not know for sure, if they were Huguenots or
Walloons. If we are going to say "Christians, who were not Roman Catholic,
Greek Catholic, Jews or Lutherans, but eighter Huguenots or Walloons" the
daily life language becomes complicated. Or can we make a new world and
simple called the unsure persons "Walnuts", wich would be better than
"Hugueloons". This can't of course be done.



The German Huguenot Society and The Danish Huguenot Society has used the
world Huguenot for all - but of course we know the difference between
Huguenots, who left after the revocation of the Nantes Edict, and the
Walloons, who left the Spanish Netherlands. It is only the research of the
ancestors, who can eventually show if they were the one or the other. We
have to search for their "place of origin" over the countryborders, wich
makes everything difficult. But were are lucky to have the internet, wich
makes our dreams come through by working together in genealogy.



Greetings Hanne Thorup Koudal

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