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From: "Richard Whitehall" <>
Subject: Freemasonry, Catholicism, Poland
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 21:20:34 -0500


RHM writes:

"The Church has unequivocally denounced membership in freemasonry and I
still find it strange when I hear of catholic Poles who were members at the
turn of the last century."



One really should not find it strange. The Papacy abolished The Order of
the Jesuits (a Catholic Institution) in 1773. The more homework one does,
the more one finds the Church itself resembles a peculiar Order of Roman
Freemasonry.


QUOTING The Catholic Encyclopedia:

'"In the Middle Ages, all life", says Dr. Shahan (Middle Ages, p. 346), "was
corporate. As religion was largely carried on by the corporations of monks
and friars, so the civic life and its duties were everywhere in the hands of
corporations."'

See http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07719b.htm



Monopoly is the ultimate corporate policy and goal, and the Church was never
very fond of competition (it tended to kill those outside the fold), hence
Papal denunciations of competing Orders of Freemasonry (in my opinion), and
even a Papal abolishment of the Roman Catholic Order of the Jesuits in 1773!

One even finds the influence of the Hanseatic League (commerce, shipping) in
all the above intrigue. The primary industry of "The Holy See" (or rather
"Holy Sea" -- maritime/admiralty law and jurisdiction involving commerce and
shipping; that's why there's always so many O-FISH-ALS up to something FISHY
in the Vatican) is:

"worldwide banking and financial activities"

See http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/vt.html

[CIA -- The World Factbook -- Holy See (Vatican City): Economy]



The peasantry may have believed in "the greatest STORY ever told (Bible,
religion)," but I'm of the opinion the Polish Nobility were NOT blind. They
fought. They were revolutionaries. They paid the price.


"Our ancestors . . . knew that they were born nobles rather than Catholics,
that they were not descended from Levi, and that Poland is a political
kingdom, not a clerical one; they knew that the Holy Church is the guest of
the states of this world, not their hereditary master; and they knew what
was due to the Lord God, and what to the country. They did not mix holy
religion with politics, and did not submit either to priests or gluttons."

See "God's Playground: A History of Poland; Volume I: The Origins to 1795"
by Norman Davies, page 342.


richard whitehall -- I wish I was Polish.





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