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From: Peter Monks <>
Subject: Re: [WW1] Somme Casualties
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:31:10 -0600
References: <016201c52a04$7469be50$8e6d86d9@PETERB>


Greetings,

I have a booklet Valour Remembered, Canada and the first world war.
Published in Commemoration of the 60th anniversary of the Armistice of the
First World War under the authority of the Minister of Veterans Affairs
(1982)

'There were no further advances that year. The autumn rains turned the
battlefield into a bog and the offensive staggered to a halt. The line had
been moved foreward only 6 miles; the allies had suffered 600,000
casualties, and 236,000 Germans were killed. Well might the Germans refer
to the Battle of the Somme as das Blutbad--the bood bath.

(Canada had 24,029 casualties)

Peter in North West Ontario
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter F BATCHELOR" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:45 AM
Subject: [WW1] Somme Casualties


> I am undertaking some research into the Battle of the Somme in 1916 and am
struggling to come to terms with the number of men lost by the British and
Commonwealth forces. It would appear to be generally accepted that the
total figure is in excess of 400,000 [When the Barrage Lifts] but when I
explore totals from obtained from SDITGW and CWGC I find their figures for 1
July to 30 November 1916 considerably less than this figure.
>
> SDITGW - approx 120,000 [+ 63rd RND, Royal Marines, RFC, Canada &
Australia]
> CWGC - approx 150,000 Buried/Commemorated in France and the UK for the
same period.
>
> I would emphasise that I am looking at men who died and not just
'casualties'.
> Obviously I am missing something but what?
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Peter Batchelor
>
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