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From: John German <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Ice age refugiums
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:08:22 -0500
References: <BAY122-F19AA4C54C3E18CC812F02ADAF80@phx.gbl><000b01c6fe07$cdff61d0$6400a8c0@Ken1> <45492D42.7060704@jarman.net><003401c6fe11$48ddc370$6400a8c0@Ken1>
In-Reply-To: <003401c6fe11$48ddc370$6400a8c0@Ken1>


Are any other haplogroups found in Italy and north Germany but rare in
between - and elsewhere?

Ken Nordtvedt wrote:

> I recall at least two folks from Italy stating S21+ status. Whether they
> are long-time lines of Italian peninsula, or Lombards, Goths, Vandals,
> Normans, or other immigrants from the north is anyone's guess at this point.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John German" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 4:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNA] Ice age refugiums
>
>
>
>>Is the Italian S21+ now a genuine phenomenon or is it still just a
>>random happenstance?
>>
>>Ken Nordtvedt wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I believe S21+ R1b is 75 percent of R1b in certain areas of greater
>>>Frisia.
>>>But R1b is only a certain fraction of total population.
>>>
>>>>From the pie charts I see for Netherlands and Denmark, S21+ R1b and
>>>
>>>>I1a/I1c
>>>
>>>would be close competitors for numero uno.
>>>
>>>Ken
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Jackson Montgomery-Devoni" <>
>>>To: <>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:40 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [DNA] Ice age refugiums
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Ken,
>>>
>>>
>>>Do you by any chance happen to know which haplogroup was probably the
>>>most
>>>dominant among the Anglo-Saxons? Was it I1a?, R1b1c9 S21+ or? I am
>>>thinking
>>>probabaly R1b1c9 S21+ since it is found in Friesland today at levels
>>>around
>>>75%.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Jackson
>>>
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