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From: "John Ozment" <>
Subject: Greater Frisia
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 02:47:36 -0700

It has been mentioned that Greater Frisia is a hotspot for 23 / 11 R1b.
So-called R1bcc includes a Frisian R1b sub-sub-cluster.

I know we're talking geography, but are we also talking ethnicity?
Has historically ethnic Frisian DNA been analyzed?

Googled maps show West, East, and North Frisia.
West and East surround the Netherlands, while North hugs Schleswig's
western coast. Other maps show an almost continuous spread
along that coastal area, hugging the coast. (Also, it is said the Dutch
descend from the Batavians.)

The Frisian people have been recognized since about 700 B.C.
Some fled flooding in 250 A.D., resettling in Kent, in S.E. England
(later also a Jutish area). But, some returned to Frisia about 400 A.D.,
where they found that their coastal areas had become supplanted
with Saxons and Jutes. Some Frisians accompanied the later Saxon/Jute
incursion(s) into England.

I'm testing my 23 / 11 Ozment's deeper R1b clades with Ethnoancestry.
If Saxon and Celt are still not accurately separable with DNA,
CAN Frisian be separately identified?

Could London's Ozment perhaps be tribally pure Frisian, for example?

http://www.ysearch.org/lastname_view.asp?uid=&letter=&lastname=Ozment&viewuid=35UQ4&p=0

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