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From: (David Faux)
Subject: Re: [DNA] Peculiar 385a & b Question
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 15:27:04 +0000


Ken:

I prefer to call this the Norse - Central Asian variety reflecting the strong linkages with individuals who have this motif to Central Asia but not Europe. Only access to the databases of Hammer via FTDNA would show this - the YHRD has few samples from Central Asia and none that test key markers. Every single one of my Aboriginal Shetland R1a1 tested have this motif and I believe it reflects the migration of members of one or a few Central Asian tribal units with mostly R1a1, and some Q, and K and perhaps C3 (but the latter is entirely conjecture until we sample more heavily from Norway) - those who became the Ynglinga Dynasty in Sweden then Norway and who populated Shetland but not Orkney (strangely) - with the latter more closely resembling the generic Slavic R1a1 from the Baltic Region.

David F.

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> 15,25,11 is the "Norwegian" motif for R1a. You should be able to confirm
> membership in this quite localized variety with your YCAIIa,b value. While
> 19,23 is the norm for Slavic R1a and much of Scandinavian R1a, this
> Norwegian variety has 19,21 to go along with the 15,25,11
>
> Ken
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> Subject: Re: [DNA] Peculiar 385a & b Question
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> > Well, that is interesting. I just had not seen that before, and I couldn't
> > find another like him in R1a. I presume it could just be a big mutation
> from
> > 11,14 since all else is thus far like R1a. I was just reading some old
> comments
> > of Ken's on R1a Norse and I guess when the 25 alleles come in I will still
> > need to go to 37 to get the Yca numbers to flesh this haplotype out. Is
> there a
> > SNP for R1a? On 390 he has 25, 19 is 15, 391 is 11. Any further thoughts
> from
> > anyone? And thanks ,Ken, for the info. I will look at the I group ,too.
> > Margretta

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