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From: "David Wilson" <>
Subject: RE: [DNA] Peculiar 385a & b Question
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 06:58:14 -0700
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Margretta,

The 13,14 pattern at 385 may not be common, but it isn't vanishingly rare,
either. I have about a dozen haplotypes with this pattern in my R1b data
base. I believe 13,14 are actually the modal values for DYS385 in E3b2.
There are several I1a Wilsons who show that pattern, so it can actually be
seen in several haplogroups. I know less about R1a, but I would not be
surprised to see it there.

I would guess that a Kittler analysis of an R1a haplotype would show the
sequence is ordered low, high rather than high, low. But since the pattern
is relatively infrequent in the R subclades, the low-high distinction is
probably more information than you would need to draw conclusions about
relatedness.

David Wilson



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Subject: [DNA] Peculiar 385a & b Question

I just got first results on a family member which so far is predicted
Haplogroup R1a and seems to fit in with Norse from UK. His ancestry is
London area of England by 1590. He has a 385a&b that are peculiar for any
haplogroup, I think. He has 13,14 at those loci. Has anyone seen this
combination. I am awaiting the rest of his numbers, but wondered about this
13, 14 at 385 a&b. Anyone have a thought? Margretta


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