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From: "Leo van de Pas" <>
Subject: [GEN-ROYAL] de Burgh connection
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:59:15 +1000


I am trying to link an Australian family to an Irish one.

In an Australian book I found the following description about Edward David Stewart Ogilvie and his first wife, Theodosia Isabella de Burgh: "That she had beauty should have surprised no one. Her great-grandmother, Elizabeth, Lady Mountjoy, had been one of the three models chosen by Sir Joshua Reynolds for his painting of 'The Three Graces Decorating the Altar of Hymen'. The two other graces were her sisters, the HonorableMrs. Barbara Beresford and the Marchioness of Townshend.

Elizabeth Montgomerie born 4 May 1751, died 7 November 1783 in Dublin. Married Luke Gardiner, 1st Baron & 1st Viscount Mountjoy on 3 July 1773 in Dublin. They had eight children, but it appears only two married and had children. Their son became Earl of Blessington and had one son and one daughter and here is no link to be found to the de Burgh family. The other child, the Hon. Louisa Gardiner, married Robert Fowler, Bishop of Ossory, son of Robert Fowler, Archbishop of Dublin, and for them I can only find two sons.

Theodosia Isabella de Burgh was born in 1838 and her father was the Rev. William de Burgh, a doctor of divinity of Trinity College in Dublin. It appears Rev. William de Burgh married twice and had many children, Theodosia Isabella being one of the youngest. This should mean (not certain) that her mother was the second wife and should be a granddaughter of Luke Gardiner, Viscount Mountjoy and Elizabeth Montgomerie. As this second wife is unlikely to be a Gardiner, she could/should be a Fowler.

The children of Lord and Lady Mountjoy have very interesting ancestors, like Sir John Hawkwood, Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmoreland, King Edward I, Llywelyn the Great of Wales, and so on.

Can anyone help?
With many thanks.
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

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