GEN-ROYAL-L Archives

From: Tim Powys-Lybbe <>
Subject: Re: Irish Earls
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 14:44:21 +0100
References: <20060511114748.12212.qmail@web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <20060511114748.12212.qmail@web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

In message of 11 May, M Davis <> wrote:

> I've hard a hard time finding well put together
> pedigrees of some of the extinct Irish earldoms and
> have been labouring to put a few together myself for
> the use of others.
> I've finally gotten around to posting two of them
> online and am open to any comments, suggestions,
> corrections, etc.

Many thanks for these.

I am not sure what your program allows but modern usage is to refer to
English counties as "Berks" or "Berkshire" and not as "co. Berkshire".
"Co. Berkshire" is a bit over the top as it is short for "comitatus" or
"county of" Berkshire and anything with "shire" at the end cannot be
anything other than a county.

The use of "co." was needed when people referred to such as Oxford
where it was not clear which they meant of Oxford the town or Oxford the
county. But now that we just put shire at the end, that solves that
problem. Of course some counties never have 'shire' at the end, such
as Essex perhaps because there has never been a town of Essex.

Of course Durham is the exception. For some reason it alone is known
as County Durham.

And all Irish counties (I think) have "County"" in front of them.

--
Tim Powys-Lybbe                                          
             For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org

This thread:

• Irish Earls by M Davis <>

  • Re: Irish Earls by Tim Powys-Lybbe <>

    • Re: Irish Earls by "Larry Coats" <>