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From: Chris Pitt Lewis <>
Subject: Re: Prinz Casimir
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 18:56:04 +0100


In article <>, Grant Menzies
<> writes (quoting someone else)
>>On one of our German baptism records it shows that Prinz Casimir
>>Ysenb-Birst. was named godfather. This was in 1754 Langendiebach
>>(just east of Frankfort Main). I believe the Ysenb-Birst. is Ysenburg
>>Birste.
>
>It should actually be Isenburg-Birstein. This is a branch of the Isenburgs
>descended from Lothar von Isenburg in Buedingen, Birstein & Kelsterbach,
>1303-1341, son of Ludwig von Isenburg in Buedingen. (Lothar's line is
>familiar to me as my late grandmother descended from his
>great-granddaughter Agnes, wife of Gerlach Graf v.Wied.)
>
>The line is described further in Europaeische Stammtafeln, Band V, 1978.
>My references to this family stop after the 1400s, so I never copied the
>rest of the lineage, but surely you can find it there.
>
>Grant
>
>

Now in ES Band XVII (1998).

It looks as though this can only be Prinz Johann Casimir b Birstein 9
dec 1715 d (in battle) Bergen bei Hanau 13 apr 1759. He was a Colonel in
the Swedish Army and a Major General in the Hesse Cassel Army. He was a
younger son of Wolfgang Ernst (1686-1754) Count of Ysenburg and
Buedingen in Birstein and Offenbach, created Fuerst (Prince) of Isenburg
and Buedingen in 1744.

Both spellings Y/Isenburg are still used by different branches of the
family, and I suspect that in the 18th century it did not much matter
how it was spelt.
--
Chris Pitt Lewis

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