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From: "Todd A. Farmerie" <>
Subject: Re: de Ayala, Gomez de Toledo, Spain
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 20:29:35 -0700
References: <B6C7CDCC.911%magus@ozemail.com.au>


Marin-Guzman wrote:
>
> Argote de Molina in his "Nobleza de Andalucia" - 1588, gives the following
> origins of the family:

These early generations are problematic. Perhaps the best
analysis of these early people is Balparda's work.

> Vela de Aragon, Infante of Aragon, m unknown (a dau. of Ortun Garcia Vaca)
> and had a number of sons:

He was NOT Infante of Aragon, as he lived before Aragon became a
Kingdom. His sons were trusted vassals of the Kings of Viguera,
and this relationship perhaps evolved into a royal descent, where
none can be shown to have existed.

> Sancho Velazquez, 1st señor de Ayala, (to whom the valley of Ayala was
> granted, in 1074, by King Alfonso VI of Castile & Leon), Vela Velazquez
> (s.p.) and Galindo Velazquez,

These individuals are modeled after brothers who, as I said, were
vassals of the King of Viguera, and as such, of his overlord,
Sancho el Mayor of Navarre. They were implicated in the death of
Garci Sanchez of Castile. (Note that they have slipped in time.)
Where exactly the later Ayala lineage plugs into these brothers
is not certain.

[snip]

> Garcia Galindez de Salzedo m Alberta Sanz (dau. of Garcia señor de Zurbano,
> gdau. of Garcia Sanz de Horozco, ggdau. of Sancho señor de Vizcaya) and had
> in her 3 sons:

This marriage is problematic, as it violates the system of
patronymics, and recent work on theVIscaya show no such descent.

> Sancho Perez de Gamboa m Andrea Diaz de Mena (dau. of Dia Sanchez de Mena, a
> descendant of Dia Sanchez de Ayala) and had one daughter:
> Elvira Sanchez

This is traditional, but there is no Dia Sanchez de Ayala in the
Ayala pedigree.


> Elvira Sanchez m Pedro Lopez de Ayala (son of Lope "el Chico", gson of Lope
> Diaz de Haro & Maria Sanz de Unza y Ayala) and had a son:
> Sancho Lopez de Ayala (also known as Sancho Lopez Motila)

Salazar y Castro studies this, and concluded that Pedero Lopez de
Ayala was not son of Lope el Chico, but a distant cousin. That
being said, the connection of the Ayala line to the earlier Haro
line cannot be supported, so for the time being, they cannot be
considered scions of Haro at all.


> Sancho Lopez de Ayala m Aldonza de Velasco (dau. of Dia Sanchez de Velasco)
> and were the parents of:
> Pero Lopez de Ayala, 7th señor de Ayala

Salazar y Castro concludes she was named Velascuri, not Velasco.

> Pero Lopez de Ayala m Sancha Fernandez Barroso (believed by some to have
> been the dau. of Fernan Perez de Velasco & Maria de Soto Mayor, and by
> others the sister of Pero Lopez Barroso, Archbishop of Toledo, and gdau. of
> Pero Gomez Barroso & Chamorra Fernandez de Azevedo) and they had a son who
> inherited the house of Ayala:
> Sancho Perez de Ayala (s.p.m.), 8th señor de Ayala


This is well documented. Sancha Fernandez was daughter of Fernan
Peres Barroso (by Mencia Garces de Sotomayor), and granddaughter
of Pedro Gomes Barroso.

> After Sancho Perez de Ayala (s.p.m.) the title passed to Fernan Perez de
> Ayala (1305-1385), 9th señor de Ayala

(who was brother of Sancho)


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