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From: David Debono <>
Subject: Re: Post-Conquest Monarchs of England & Languages
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 20:41:48 +0000


On Mon, 01 Jan 2001 19:49:01 GMT, "D. Spencer Hines"
<> wrote:

>"...Edward III did not decide that only English would be used on his
>50th Birthday?"
>
>David Debono ---- 1 January 2001
>----------------------

I'm sorry. The original sentance was asking if *you* thought that
Edward III did not decide... etc.... I ask again if this is what you
think happened?

>
>Give us the complete quotation and citation from your source, s'il vous
>plait.

I understand that he *did* decide that this was to happen. I'd like to
see any documentation that he did not do this.

>
>Further, you seem to be missing perhaps the most significant aspect of
>that factoid/fact.
>
>If Edward III, King of England, had to decide and presumably declare to
>his courtiers that only English would be "used" on his 50th Birthday,
>which would have been on 13 November 1362, that may be the dog that did
>not bark in the night.

What may be the "dog that did not bark in the night"? What are you
actually talking about?

>
>If, 300 YEARS AFTER the Battle of Hastings in 1066, the King of England
>has to insist that everyone speak [read, write?] English on his
>birthday ---- THAT may indeed be the salient fact ---- not some other
>perhaps facile, but brainless, assertion.

I am not sure what Hastings has to do with any of this. Pre Hastings
English was written, not French. However, to follow your paragraph
(assuming that I was in England at the time) why should I have to
speak English on *my* birthday and how would that be salient to our
present discussion?

The brainless, or facile, assertion. Well do you not agree that Edward
III, on his 50th Birthday, made that *assertion*?

Take care

David D.

>
>Honi soit qui mal y pense.

And to which family member would that quote concern?

>
>Deus Vult.

So? Does what "Deus" look like have any bearing on the case?

Deus di meliora ab fatuus.

David D.

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