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Subject: Re: Fw: Descendants of William Malet, Baron of Curry Malet, MCS 1215
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 09:55:51 EST
In a message dated 11/1/00 9:16:06 PM Central Standard Time,
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<< Cris: Unfortunately, I do not have a copy of Ancestral Roots by Weis.
My reference to Alice Basset as the mother of Mabel Malet is borrowed from
Jim Stevens' website. Jim shows that his information on Alice comes from
Weis, 189:1, and 234A:28. I don't know if these refer to her as mother of
Alice or not. Jim also states on his page for Mabel, however, that Weis
261:31, does not identify her mother. It would be helpful if someone could
review these. In light of what you present, I think there is certainly a
possibility that Mabel and Hawise Malet were children of an earlier
marriage. I do not mean to infer by anything stated here that Jim Stevens
is defending Alice as the mother of Mabel. He may be simply showing her as
a possibility.
Lee >>
Please excuse any scanning errors
189:1 shows
1. Sir William Malet [234A-28], held barony of Curry Malet, Somerset, sheriff
of Somerset and Devon, Magna Charta Surety, 1215, d. ca. 1216; m. Alice, dau.
of Thomas Basset, named in Magna Charta, 1215.
2. Hawise Malet [234A-29]; m. [1] Sir Hugh Poyntz [132D-30], s.sh. bef. 4
April 1220; m. [2] bef 11 February 1220/1, Sir Robert de Muscegros, of
Charlton, Somerset, d. sh. bef. 29 Jan. 1253/4.
Line 234A (Prepared by Douglas Richardson)
25. ROBERT MALET, thought gr. s. William Malet, d. 1071, of Granville St.
Honorine, Normandy, at Battle of Hastings 1066, sheriff of Yorkshire 1068,
held barony of Curry Malet, Somerset, 1135, previously held by de Courcelles
family, d. by 1156. (Arthur Malet, Notices of an English Branch of the Malet
Family, 1-73; Sanders, 38-39; Somerset Arch. and Nat. Hist Soc. xxx 74-75
(Arthur Malet, "Notes on the Malet Family"); Wagner, English Genealogy (2nd
ed.), 66; Dugdale, Baronage, I 110-111; Falaise Roll, Tables III & V).
26. WILLLAM I MALET, d. 1169, steward, favorite of Henry II, held barony of
Curry Malet, Somerset, other lands in Kent, Cambridge, and Sussex; signer of
the Constitutions of Clarendon in 1164. (Sanders, op. cit; Dugdale, op. cit.;
VCH Cambridge VI 159-160 (manor of Dullingham, a Malet property); Som. Arch.
& Nat. Hist. Soc., cit.).
27. GILBERT MALET, barony of Curry Malet, Somerset, steward during reign of
King Henry II, witnessed the treaty in 1174 betw. Henry II and William, King
of Scotland, d. ca. 1194; m. Alice, dau. of Ralph Picot. (Som. Arch. & Nat.
Hist., cit.; Sanders, op. cit., 75-76; Dugdale, op. cit.; VCH Cambridge, op.
cit.).
28. WILLLAM II MALET, adult by 1196, barony of Curry Malet, Somerset, sheriff
of Somerset and Dorset 1209, M.C. surety 1215, d. ca. 1216. He was survived
by his apparently (2) wife Alice, d. ca. 1263, dau. & coh. Thomas Basset, d.
1220, lord of Headington, Oxford and Colynton and Whitford, co. Devon, by
wife, Philippa Malbank. Alice's maritagium, the manor of Deddington, co.
Oxford. She m. (2) by 1223 John Bisset (or Biset), d. 1241, by whom 3 daus:
Margaret, Ela & Isabel. (Sanders, op. cit., 38-39, 51-52; Malet, op. cit.,
77-83; VCH Cambridge, op. cit., VI 159-160; DNB 12:865-866; Dugdale, op.
cit.; VCH Somerset V 97-98 (manor of Kilve, a Malet property); CP X 672, esp.
footnote g. According to VCH Oxford V 160 Alice Basset's three Bisset (Biset)
chn. were coh. of Alice's sis. Phillippa Basset, but not the Malet chn; so
they must have been chn. of an earlier wife.)
29. HAWISE MALET (189-2) aptly. child of first unkn. wife, coh. to barony of
Curry Malet, Somerset, liv. 4 May 1287; m. (1) bef. 23 Mar. 1216/7, SIR HUGH
POYNTZ (132D-30), d. sh. bef. 4 Apr. 1220 (s. & h. app. Nicholas Poyntz, dead
by 2 Nov. 1223, lord of Tockington, co. Gloucester, by (1) wife, Juliane,
dau. of Hugh Bardolf). With father, Hugh joined the Barons agst. King John,
captured 17 July 1216, at Worcester and imprisoned. Hawise m. (2) bef. 11
Feb. 1220/1, Robert de Muscegros of Chariton, Somerset, d. sh. bef. 29 Jan.
1253/4. (CP X 672; Sanders, 39-39; Sir John Maclean, Historical and
Genealogical Memoir of the Family of Poyntz, esp. charts pp. 28-29; VCH
Cambridge, op. cit.; Cal. Inq.p.m. I 82].
Always optimistic--Dave
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