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From: "ED MANN" <>
Subject: Re: Lovaine
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 09:48:00 -0400


The Peddler wrote:
>
> Alianore de Lovaine 1345-1397 married Sir William Bourchier d 1375. She
> was the dau of John de Lovaine and Margaret Weston and the grandaughter
> of Thomas de Lovaine. Supposedly, this Lovaine family descends from a
> brother of Adela de Lovaine, 2nd wife of Henry II of England. There is
> also said to be a decent from a younger son of Walter FitzOther. Does
> anyone have these connects and would they be so kind as to share them?
>
> Thanks, DDC

I have:

Descendants of Mainier de Sens

1 Mainier de Sensd: 800ref #: (Ä240-14)
+ref #: (Ä240-14)
2 Gainfroi de Sensref #: (Ä240-14)
+Theidlindis de Bloisd: Aft. 795ref #: Ä240-14
3 Giselbert von Maasgauref #: Ä240-15
+aka: Bertswindaref #: (Ä240-15)
4 Giselbert von Maasgaub: Bef. 840d: Abt. 885ref #: Ä240-16
+Ermengarde de Lorraineaka: Helletrude de Lorraineb: Abt. 830
ref #: Ä140-16
5 [9] Regnier I de Lorraineaka: Regnier I de Hainaultb: Abt. 850d:
Aft. 25 Oct 915ref #: Ä140-17
+Hersent de Franceref #: (Ä140-17)
6 [1] Regnier II de Hainaultb: Abt. 890d: 932ref #: Ä155-18
*2nd Wife of [1] Regnier II de Hainault:
+Adelaide de Bourgogneaka: Aelis de Bourgogneb: Abt. 890ref #:
(Ä155-18)
7 Regnier III de Hainaultaka: "Longhals"b: Abt. 920d: 973ref #:
Ä155-19
+Adele de Louvainb: Abt. 920d: 961ref #: (Ä155-19)
8 Regnier IV de Hainaultb: Abt. 950d: 1013ref #: (Ä106-21)
+Hedwig Capetaka: Hedwig de Franceb: Abt. 972d: Aft. 1013ref
#: Ä106-21
9 [5] Beatrix de Hainaultb: Abt. 997ref #: Ä106-22
+[8] Ebles I de Roucyb: Abt. 988d: 11 May 1033ref #: Ä151-21
10 Alix de Roucyaka: Adelaide de Roucyb: Abt. 1014d: 1063ref #:
Ä151-22
+Hildouin III de Montdidieraka: 4th Count of Montdidier & Roucy
b: Abt. 1010d: Abt. 1063ref #: (Ä111-25)
11 [11] Adela de Ramerub: Abt. 1025d: Abt. 1069ref #: (Ä149-22A)
+[10] Arnold II de Chinyaka: Arnulf II de Chinyb: Abt. 1025d:
16 Apr 1106ref #: (Ä149-22A)
12 [13] Otto II de Chinyb: Abt. 1055d: 28 Mar 1125ref #:
(Ä149-22A)
+[12] Adelaide de Namurb: 1068d: 1124ref #: Ä149-22A
13 [7] Ida de Namuraka: Ida de Chinyb: 1083d: Abt. 1120ref #:
Ä149-23
+[6] Godfrey I de Brabantb: Abt. 1060d: 25 Jan 1139/40ref #:
Ä155-23
14 Godfrey II de Brabantaka: Comte de Louvaind: 1142ref #:
Ä155-24
+Luitgarde von Sulzbachb: Abt. 1120d: Aft. 1162ref #:
(Ä155-24)
15 [2] Godfrey III de Brabantb: Abt. 1141d: 21 Aug 1190ref #:
Ä155-25
*2nd Wife of [2] Godfrey III de Brabant:
+Imaine von Loosref #: (Ä155-25)
16 Godfrey de Lovained: Abt. 26 Apr 1226ref #: Ä155A-26
+Alice de Hastingsref #: (Ä155A-26)
17 Matthew de Lovained: Bef. Jun 1258ref #: Ä155A-27
+Murield: Aft. 1274ref #: (Ä155A-27)
18 [4] Matthew de Lovaineb: Abt. 1237d: 1302ref #: Ä155A-28
+Helisantref #: (Ä155A-28)
19 Thomas de Lovaineb: 11 Jul 1291d: 9 Apr 1345ref #: Ä155A-29
+Joand: 1318ref #: (Ä155A-29)
20 [3] John de Lovaineb: Abt. 1318d: 30 Jan 1346/47ref #: BxP:65
*2nd Wife of [3] John de Lovaine:
+Margaret de Westond: 25 Jul 1349ref #: (Ä155A-30)
21 Alainor de Lovaineb: 27 Mar 1345d: 5 Oct 1397ref #: Ä155A-31
*2nd Wife of [4] Matthew de Lovaine:
*2nd Husband of [5] Beatrix de Hainault:
8 Lambert I de Louvainb: Abt. 950d: 12 Sep 1015ref #: Ä155-20
+Gerberge de Lorraineaka: Gerberge of Lower Lorraineb: Abt. 975
d: Aft. 1017ref #: Ä148-20
9 Lambert II de Louvainb: Abt. 991d: Aft. 21 Sep 1062ref #:
Ä155-21
+Oda de Verdund: 23 Oct 1044ref #: (Ä155-21)
10 Henry II de Louvainaka: Henry II de Brabantd: 1077ref #:
(Ä149-23)
+Adelaide von der Betuweaka: Adelaide de Orlamundab: Abt. 1045
d: Aft. 1086ref #: (Ä155-22)
11 [6] Godfrey I de Brabantb: Abt. 1060d: 25 Jan 1139/40ref #:
Ä155-23
+[7] Ida de Namuraka: Ida de Chinyb: 1083d: Abt. 1120ref #:
Ä149-23
*2nd Wife of [6] Godfrey I de Brabant:
6 Giselbert de Lorraineb: Abt. 890d: 939ref #: Ä140-18
+Gerberge von Sachsenb: Abt. 913d: 5 May 984ref #: Ä142-18
7 Alberade de Lorraineb: 930d: 15 Mar 972/73ref #: Ä151-19
+Renaud de Roucyb: Abt. 926d: 15 Mar 972/73ref #: (Ä151-19)
8 Giselbert de Roucyb: Abt. 956d: 990ref #: Ä151-20
9 [8] Ebles I de Roucyb: Abt. 988d: 11 May 1033ref #: Ä151-21
+[5] Beatrix de Hainaultb: Abt. 997ref #: Ä106-22
*2nd Wife of [9] Regnier I de Lorraine:
+Albrada de Monsaka: Alberade de Monsb: Abt. 870d: Aft. 916ref
#: (Ä140-17)
6 ref #: S403-37
+Berenger de Namurb: Bef. 907d: 946
7 Robert I de Namurb: Bef. 946d: 981ref #: (Ä149-20)
+Ermengarde de Lorraine
8 Adalbert I de Namurd: 1012ref #: (Ä149-20)
+Ermentrude de Lorraineaka: Ermengarde de Lorraineb: Abt. 973d:
Aft. 1012ref #: Ä149-20
9 Ermengarde de Namur
+Otto I de Chinyaka: Otto I de Warcqb: Abt. 942d: 1013ref #:
S65-36
10 Louis I de Chinyaka: Louis I de Ivoixd: 28 Sep 1025ref #:
S65-35
+Adelaide
11 Louis II de Chinyaka: Louis II de Ivoixd: 1068ref #: S65-34
+Sophia de Verdund: 1078
12 [10] Arnold II de Chinyaka: Arnulf II de Chinyb: Abt. 1025d: 16
Apr 1106ref #: (Ä149-22A)
+[11] Adela de Ramerub: Abt. 1025d: Abt. 1069ref #: (Ä149-22A)
9 Adalbert II de Namurb: Abt. 1000d: 1064ref #: Ä149-21
+Regelinde de Lorraineb: Abt. 994d: 1064ref #: (Ä149-21)
10 Adalbert III de Namurb: Bef. 1035d: 22 Jun 1102ref #: Ä149-22
+Ida von Sachsend: 31 Jul 1102ref #: (Ä149-22)
11 [12] Adelaide de Namurb: 1068d: 1124ref #: Ä149-22A
+[13] Otto II de Chinyb: Abt. 1055d: 28 Mar 1125ref #:
(Ä149-22A)

--
FWIW; AFAIK; IMHO; YMMV; yadda, yadda, yadda.

Regards, Ed Mann mailto:

References:
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AACPW = Roberts & Reitwiesner, _American Ancestors and Cousins of
the Princess of Wales_, [page].
AAP = Roberts, _Ancestors_of_American_Presidents_, [page] or
[Pres. # : page].
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BPci = _Burke's_Peerage_, 101st ed., [page].
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BxP = _Burke's_Dormant_&_Extinct_Peerages_, [page].
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EC2 = Langston & Buck, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
EC3 = Buck & Beard, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
F = Faris, _Plantagenet_Ancestry_, [page:para].
NK1 = Roberts, _Notable_Kin_Volume_One_, [page].
NK2 = Roberts, _Notable_Kin_Volume_Two_, [page].
Π= Hardy, Colonial_Families_of_the_Southern_States_of_America, [pg].
PA = Faris, _Plantagenet_Ancestry_, 2d ed. [page:para].
S = Stuart, _Royalty_for_Commoners_, 2d ed. Caveat lector.
W = Weis, _Magna_Charta_Sureties,_1215_, 4th ed.
WFT = Broderbund's World Family Tree CD, [vol]:[num] Caveat lector.
WMC = Wurt's Magna Charta, [vol]:[page] Caveat lector.

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