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From: "Pat Patterson" <>
Subject: de la Haie / Haye
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:24:25 -0500


Can anyone add to this picture? I'd especially appreciate being guided to
some sources to read. (French or English) Would like to add to the de la
Haie info.

I have:

Aubree de la Haie
m Humphrey de Vielles de Beaumont
son Roger b c 1022

Is there a connection between this Aubree and
Richard de la Haie (died in the reign of Henry II)?

Richard de la Haie had 3 daughters.
I only know the eldest:
Dame Nicolla de la Haie b 1150
She was custodian of Lincoln castle & sheriff of Lincolnshire, and very
loyal to King John.
Her 2nd husband was Gerard de Camville.
Who was her first?
Names of son & dau with Gerard?
Any other children?

Then I have seen the wife of Wm de Braose (c1150-1211), Maud de St-Valery,
called "Lady of La Haie." Putting her fate (starved to death, along with
her eldest son, in 1210 courtesy of King John's forced hospitality; yes, I
know that was due to her husband's battles with John) next to Nicolla's
tenacity for King John makes me wonder about the "de la Haie" labels.
Different lines from a common place?

I don't have Maud's parents. Anyone add to the St-Valery line?

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