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From: Kay Allen AG <>
Subject: Re: Odard de Dutton
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 11:48:13 -0700


Stewart Baldwin wrote:
>
> On 2 Aug 1999 04:58:02 -0700, (Kay Allen AG) wrote:
>
> >It would appear that Cope is an incompetent genealogist and a plagerist
> >to boot, if he did not cite Ormerod.
>
> Did you know that Gilbert Cope (1840-1928) is a member of the National
> Genealogy Hall of Fame, and was the foremost expert on English and
> American Quaker genealogy of his time? Although I am not familiar
> with the specific case being discussed here, I have done a tremendous
> amount of genealogical research on English and American Quaker
> families, and am familiar with much of Cope's work, which I have found
> to be of very high quality. (I have caught him in a few errors, but
> every genealogist as prolific as Cope is going get caught making
> mistakes from time to time.) Before suggesting that such an eminent
> genealogist might have been a plagiarist and an incompetent, I think
> that more detailed evidence should be offered.
>
> Stewart Baldwin

The name seemed familiar. However, if he was quoted correctly, to which
I cannot attest, my statement stands. If J. Stevens has misquoted him
and misled us, then my "appears" lets me off the hook. As J. Stevens
reported it, it seemed as if he had taken Ormerod without attribution.
But since I had not seen the work in question, I said appears to be
as based on what was sent. If what was sent as purporting to be quoting
Cope, is not an accurate quote or paraphrasing, then Mr. Stevens owes
us all, including Mr. Cope, an apology for not getting it correct and
should change his web page so that it accurately reflects Mr. Cope's
scholarship.

Would Mr. Stevens please send us the applicable passages from Cope's
work, so that we may more accurately address the matter.

Kay Allen AG

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