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From: John Carmi Parsons <>
Subject: Re: oldest line s....
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 07:25:03 -0400 (EDT)


The Edward referred to below is Edward I, son of Henry III and Eleanor of
Provence. Eleanor of Provence's mother was Beatrice of Savoy, whose
mother was a lady of the house of the counts of Geneva.

John Parsons

On Sat, 1 May 1999 wrote:

> Bernardo of Ivrea
> I
> Guido Mquis of Ivrea , 894
> I
> Anscher +895
> I
> 2e f Berenger , Mis d'Ivree, Roy d'Italie
> I
> Adalbert, Kin gof Italy , 963
> I
> Dodon , 8th Mis of Ivrea, 973
> I
> 2nd son son Arduino, 10th Mis of Ivrea, King of Italy x Bertha d'Este
> I
> 4th son Arduino, Cte de Valperga & Cnaves, 1026
> I
> 1) Alberto, Stammvater of the Counts of Canaves
> 2) Arduino, Stammvater of the counts of Valperga in 1060
> 3)Guido
> 4) NN
> Alberto +1041 Cte de Canaves x Aldusia d'Este fa Obizzone IIIMis de Toscane
> et Beatrice d'ESte
> I
> guido Cte de Canaves, sgr de Valpergue, +1069 x Gerberga del Vasco, fa Tete,
> Mis del Vasco & Elena de Vintimille
> I
> Arduino Cte de Canaves +1101 x Aloise de BIANDRATE, fa Oberto
> I
> Guido II Cte de Canaves +1158 x Beatrizia VISCONTI
> I
> Beatrice de VALPERGUE x Guillaume cte de GENEVE, sgr de Faucigny, +1226
> Amncestors of Edward, King of England
>
> Another branch of the Valpergas settled in Switzerland and died out in my
> family in the late 15th century. an Italian branch still exists in Piedmont ,
> Conti di VALPERGA and a french branch , the Comtes de MASIN are also still
> extant- is this the oldest patrilineal descent in Europe!????
> Any comments? Which Edward of England would this relate to ? does anyone
> know!
> Peter de Loriol Chandieu
>
>

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