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From: Richard Borthwick< >
Subject: Re: Too many Guigues II d'Albon
Date: 1 Nov 1998 07:54:54 -0800


At 06:51 AM 1/11/98 -0800, you wrote:
>In editing my db I found two Guigues II d'Albon, that appear unconnected,
>have differing numbering schemes from sources (I have been caught by that
>before)or had multiple wives that I failed to accurately capture. Guigues
>III d'Albon also is probably misidentified. Can someone please point out
>my error?
>#1
>1 Guigues Id: Oct 18, 996
>.+Fredeburgam: m.2d: Aft. Mar 26, 1027
>...2 Humbert
>...2 Guigues II d'Albond: Bef. Jun 06, 1007
>......+Gotelinne de Clerieu
>........3 Guigues III le Vieuxb: Abt. 1004d: Apr 22, 1070 Cluny, France
>...........+Adelaide de Beaujeum: Bef. 1013d: Abt. 1034
>.............4 Adelaide d'Albonb: Abt. 1015
>................+Amedeo I di Savoiad: Abt. 1056
>.............4 Guigues IV le Grosb: Bef. 1020d: Abt. Jan 19, 1079/80
>................+Petronel d'Aunonaym: Bef. Apr 27, 1050d: Abt. 1070
>
>
>#2
>1 Guigues II d'Albon
>.+Ies de Barcelona
>...2 Guigues III d'Albon
>......+Mathilde ou Rgine Aetheling d'Angleterre
>...2 Guigues-Raymond d'Albon
>......+Ide-Raymonde de Forezb: 1055m: 1097
>........3 Guigues II de Forezd: 1137
>...........+Marie de Beaujeu
>.............4 Guigues III de Forezd: Jan 24, 1225/26
>................+Ermengarde
>
>Thanks, Herb
>
ES III/4:738 gives a sequence of 10 Guigues the last five of whom were
counts of Albon and are numbered accordingly I to V. I skip the first four
unnumbered Guigues.

1. Guigues 1009/1034 married twice but by the 2nd had no children. His first
wife (m.1013) was Gotelena dau. of Silvion Clerieu and Willa.
2. Guigues I (d.1075) m.(1) Adelais probably of Turin; m.(2) 1070 Agnes
(Inez) 1068/94, dau. Ramon Berenguer I count of Barcelona.
3. By the 1st marriage: 3a. Guigues II (d.>1095) who in 1091 was a coheir of
Adelaida margravine of Turin m.Petronille. By the 2nd marriage: 3b. Guigues
called Raimund m. Ita-Raymondis dau. Artaud II count of Lyon and Forez.
4. By 3a: Guigues III (d.1125) m.(1) NN; m.(2)1106/1110 Mathilde Regina dau.
probably of Roger I count of Sicily and Apulia and Adelaida of Savona.
5. By the 2nd marriage: Guigues IV (d.1142) m.<30 Jan 1131/32 Clemence
called Marguerite (d.1164) dau. of Stephen I count of Macon. Mathilde who m.
Amadeus III count of Savoy was Guigues IV's sister of the whole blood.

I hope this is of some help, and not too inaccurate given the time of night.

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